I will never vote Democrats!

Since I do not intend to move to the US but I vote the lesser of several evils here in Europe

I've been called many names, including "tankie", so I'll take a stab at responding.

I'm not mad about the debate at all. I expected something fairly similar. I'm mad that Biden and the Democratic leadership seems to have put their own interests above the interest of the ~~party~~ people (edit: Ugh. Terrible typo).

If Biden had gracefully stepped aside and given just about any other Democrat his full support, we'd be in a much better position now. Instead we have a candidate with a ton of baggage and who presents an easy target for Trump's style of argument. Many mainstream Democrats, including the NYT, are finally starting to realize this. Unfortunately it's probably a year too late. At this point it would just make it look like Demoratic kingmakers forced him out.

If I went by the modern definition of "tankie" as, an anti-american authoritarian communist. I probably wouldn't be mad at any of this. I'd be cackling with glee because either of the current nominees will be terrible for the US. Neither of them has a serious long term plan. Neither of them can articulate a policy position. Both of them will continue to erode the power and moral authority of the United States.

Like it or not. Trump is likely to be the next president https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/. At this point it's probably wise to start thinking about how to limit his impact and how to start cleaning up the mess afterwards.

I will cast my vote between tears but nobody ever promised preserving democracy will always make you feel good.

In fact, I am close to launching into a really hard condemnation of every last one of you lazy-ass motherfuckers who expect everything to always play out like a 2-dimensional anime plot where you're the good guy so you're supposed to always feel good, and any struggles are easily overcome, and if it doesn't play out like that, then you go full doomer-mode and grab your soapbox to preach how pointless life is just because you're lonely but too scared to talk to a girl. Go back to your discord safe-spaces and let adults out here make the hard choices.

I’m voting Brandon but let’s not pretend he didn’t shit the bed. It was fucking awful. Brandon should fuck off, but I’d vote for a corpse over any republican, and that will probably be true for the rest of my life.

Would be nice to have a candidate who stands for something other than "he's not the other guy" or "I'm sticking it to [group]!"

You address this to tankies. I see very few of them around here these days.

Cringe karma post.

I wonder how many of the dyed-in-the-wool DNC supporters would stay home or vote third party if Biden wasn't the candidate chosen at the convention.

using a pepe to post this is letting the mask slip a bit there bud.

I'd vote for ToS era Pike over Trump. I'd vote for a candidate who only communicates via ouija board over Trump. I'd vote to not have a president for 4 years before I'd vote for Trump.

It's crazy that Trump can get convicted of fraud, be found liable for sexual assault, promise to abuse presidential power to get revenge against those who cross him, actively undermine both national and global security, promise to round up millions and put them into camps, attempt to overthrow the election and refuse to not try it again, and so on, and his side is still so loyal they'll wear solidarity diapers for him.

Just because you are still voting Biden, doesn't mean you don't care.
It just means you still don't want the raving malignant narcissist Trump.
Any somewhat normal person would be the obvious choice over Trump. Any person who is not clearly a traitor to USA and Democracy would be preferable to Trump.

☝🏻🤓 I am very smart!

We got to bruh, the shit Trump & MAGA are planning for 2024 is wild.

At this point I doubt tankies should be much of a concern. What are they, 1-2% of the potential Dem voter base? I'd sooner worry about the indecisive ones who have seen the performances in the debate.

I think the real upsetting thing isn't Biden's performance, or having Biden as president for four more years. He achieved quite a bit after all. The real upsetting thing is the DNC being such cunts that they even pushed for this debate, hoping that Biden could win, only to deny and ignore Biden's abhorrent performance immediately after. That Bernie got shafted twice by them, that is the really upsetting part.

Yeah, I feel like people are freaking out and ignoring that Biden (and Trump) are largely the people they surround themselves with, and the policies they push.

They've both been president for years.

But NOOOOO both sides both sides lalalaa can't hear you both sides lalalaa /s