Reddit being shite isn't news, it turned shit a long, long time ago.
Mozilla may have made some stupid decisions but Firefox is by far ye best browser our there this moment
The marketing company Google can go pound a pineapple
this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2024
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The word is astroturfing.
The amount of fucks I give about what reddit thinks is practically negative at this point. Bot-infected, corporate, ad-obscured, power-tripping-mod, anti-user, sell-your-content-to-AI toxic swamp Reddit.
It all started with Apple choosing KDE's KHTML instead of Gecko. Then it was compounded when Chrome forked WebKit to develop Chromium. Mozilla tried to modernize their engine but it was too little too late with the rise of the mobile web.
in my experience the browser went through a poor engineering phase just as Chrome was getting good, and that continued for quite some time, the mobile browser took a very wayward turn a few years ago
oddly this happened at the same time as Rust and Firefox OS appeared which i think are phenomenal achievements
so Chrome ate Firefox's lunch and the series of weird CEOs have compounded that by attempting to cover it up with progressive sounding PR
There are real issues with Mozilla, but most of these people are complaining about nothing. Constantly whining about every little thing to the point you would think they are saying they are worse than Google.
OP of the reddit post is doing a pretty good job pointing out themselves why Mozilla is hated. They pretend to be pro-privacy and defend the internet from Google, while making mad cash from none other than google, introducing garbage like DoH to cloudflare, pocket, cliqz in Germany, and cucking to drm standards. Anonym is just the latest trash on heap that is Mozilla's track record.
There are alternative browsers (webengine (stripped down blink), webkit, Ladybird, Netsurf, text only (in order of supported features)). Do they support every web standard perfectly? Do they have the same level of extension support? Maybe not, but they're good enough for most usecases. Stop pretending Mozilla and Google are the only options.
Reddit is full of bots posting whatever the payer wants to promote. This sudden hatred of Firefox by all these reddit accounts sure does line up with Chrome manifest V3 coming out ..... Coincidence? I think not
Firefox and it's forks are the best browsers. They are still not very good. There are a ton of bad decisions and poor code. From old legacy stuff like how user profiles are stored to closed source shit like pocket.
The mozilla foundation has been on a downhill slide since google hired the skilled programmers to make chrome. Bad leadership,poor spending, and stupid priorities.
So yes firefox is the best browser. But that's kind of like being the best cable company. Not exactly a great thing.
Yes, a licence fee approved by government and given to the BBC. Its not optional. Its a tax by another name with some arms length from the government to try to prevent conflict of interest. It does OK at that but not great.
They're still a great company reddit just likes to whine and argue
The Mozilla corp burns user goodwill like it's an unlimited resource. A lot of us are just sick of Mozilla's corporate shit.
I stopped using Firefox for 2-3 years before coming back. FF WAS very buggy, crashing almost every day. I understand why it has a bad reputation.
When I reinstalled FF the bugs were gone, I hope it stays that way.
Something's a little fishy with all the hate i recon.
You've said it a couple times so just FYI it's "reckon".
Fuck the spellin nazis are out strong today. Gotta ensure purity of language ey?
It’s happening on lemmy too. People making posts in multiple subs saying that FF is super buggy, etc.
I wouldn't say they are wrong, I've got plenty of issues with Firefox that aren't in chromium-based browsers. Mostly with media playback, but on Android the toolbar hide on scroll is a mess, no matter what it just covers the page. Makes it really hard to use a menu or click a button depending on where it is. I also have some locally run services that throw js errors in FF but not in cromite, chromium, or chrome.
Doesn't mean I don't prefer FF because I acknowledge it has problems. I don't generally view videos in my browser anyway, and I disable the hide-on-scroll feature. And if I have a particularly problematic site (the js errors), I open cromite or whatever.
The bigger issue isn't people talking about bugs, but downplaying the role the foundation plays in supporting users. That, imo, is where a lot of misinformation and disinformation seems to live.
Probably cos google keeps breqkibb things for it. Ive also found a lot of things work fine if u spoof user agent so i recon real people real issues fake cause.
Firefox is... fine. Everything else sucks.
Yup, moved back to it from chrome about a year ago. It's more stable than chrome was to me. Sounds like some corporate bullshit pushing the Mozilla hate.
I don't trust Reddit anymore, and to my knowledge Mozilla has always put user rights before corporate greed. Also Mozilla is a sort of non profit. So you're gonna need more than anecdotes to change my mind.
Not always look at pocket or the mr robot promo.
Mozilla acquiring an ad company is something of a bad sign though.
creating a privacy friendly ad organization for people as an alternative to google is what they should be doing.
The BBC is a respected broadcaster in the UK that shows no ads as it is government funded. They have investments abroad that have ads showing their programs, for profit to fund more programming. It doesn't change their mission. In fact, some shows have cone from their for-profit division. You can have values and be for the people but still live on the real world.
HAHAHAHAH are you fucking seriously comparing a company with free overhead to one that doesn't? Fuck thst might take the cake for the dumbest shit I've seen all day.👏👏👏
You do of course realise that despite the name, it is not a company?
When you rudely try to correct someone, but are inaccurate, you make yourself look like even dumber than what you complain about.
No, it's not government funded. It's funded by the people from a yearly licence fee, so has no ads. This is how it stays politically impartial too (mostly).
Yes, a licence fee approved by government and given to the BBC. Its not optional. Its a tax by another name with some arms length from the government to try to prevent conflict of interest. It does OK at that but not great.
However the point is that you can mix profitable endeavors successfully into a non profit to improve the non profit and fund the non profit parts. The problem is when the tail wags the dog.
It never had a majority of the market.
Downhill ever since Brendan Eich left /s