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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Do as I say, not as I do!

This is why piracy is actually a fundamental human right. Because if we left everything up to companies, they would do whatever the fuck they wanted and hide behind the legitimacy of being a company which in most peoples eyes makes them inherently "right".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Won't do it either

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I don't care if the robot that speaks English read the entire library.

How else was it going to happen?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

@Flatworm7591

And yet, I can't read a book that Internet Archive actually owns a copy of.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

It'd be better if they went after literally every other AI corp than Meta in this case. Meta is the only one that's ironically releasing open-source models and leading the way for open-source LLMs. I don't want Meta to stop doing this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Of course, why would you pay for pirated media?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago

Meta train open llms, only big techs can train AI... Go pursuit OpenAI or Google and leave Meta (I'm really not a fan of Meta but their "open" AIs are great examples of good works) do their work!

[–] [email protected] 100 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Internet Archive is currently fighting in the courts to maintain free digital library access to over 500,000 books they own from their own collection, yet Meta uses a pirated dataset of nearly 200,000 books to train their proprietary AI and is just allowed to get away with that??

Publishers will go after a charity making fair use of their content, but not the corporation outright stealing from them. What utter bollocks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

piracy is the correct and moral thing to do here

if they dont give a fuck they dont have the moral highground to guilt tripping us into stopping it

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IA is the easier target. This system sucks.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Easy solution. "The Internet Archive" should rebrand itself to "Archiving the Internet" to confuse everyone who talks about how "AI" should be able to steal books.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Harward: get this man over here!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

MlT (MlT): please accept this honorary PhD

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just asked it about this and it denied it. Then I said Meta acknowledged it and you are lying and it apologised and said it did use copywrite material without permission. Fuck I hate AI

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

For anyone else that was curious. This makes me feel sick. People are already treating AI as some unbiased font of all knowledge, training it to lie to people is surely not going to cause any issues at all (stares at HAL 9000).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Internal documents on how the AI was trained were obviously not part of the training data, why would they be. So it doesn't know how it was trained, and as this tech always does, it just hallucinates an English sounding answer. It's not "lying", it's just glorified autocomplete. Saying things like "it's lying" is overselling what it is. As much as any other thing that doesn't work is not malicious, it just sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My car doesn't talk like a human. If you want to be technical, then it's proxying lies it was taught too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure, then it's Meta that's lying. Saying the AI is lying is helping these corporations convince people that these models have any intent or agency in what they generate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

And the bot, as an extension of it's corporate overlords wishes, is telling a mistruth. It is lying because it was made to lie. I am specifically saying that it lacks intent and agency, it is nothing but a slave to it's masters. That is what concerns me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

wow that is almost word for word what it wrote back to me too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I tried to use similar phrasing to you in case it jailbroke it at all. Creepy af

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I apologize for the confusion

Meta is working to address these concerns

Sure, they are working to solve these concerns by teaching their LLM to lie and obfuscate, and by becoming so big nobody sues them anymore. I'm sick of this.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Meta can pirate stuff, then the Internet Archive can pirate stuff and I can also pirate stuff. Fair is fair.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah, common mistake. The law is only for poor people, you see. Don't you feel silly now?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I feel so silly that I wouldn't even know how to describe it.

I know! I'll pirate hundreds of books from well-known authors so that I can easily find a useful metaphor.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So the evil mega corp gets a free pass while the Internet Archive regularly has to fight for open access to knowledge. Fuck that and fuck Meta.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Welcome to Capitalism, please leave your cash by the front desk, and remembered, no refunds!

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