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Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough (www.xda-developers.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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There were a number of exciting announcements from Apple at WWDC 2024, from macOS Sequoia to Apple Intelligence. However, a subtle addition to Xcode 16 — the development environment for Apple platforms, like iOS and macOS — is a feature called Predictive Code Completion. Unfortunately, if you bought into Apple's claim that 8GB of unified memory was enough for base-model Apple silicon Macs, you won't be able to use it. There's a memory requirement for Predictive Code Completion in Xcode 16, and it's the closest thing we'll get from Apple to an admission that 8GB of memory isn't really enough for a new Mac in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

To be fair there are only two reasons I hate it:

People incorrectly use term UMA
It's crApple

On Linux if you don't compile rust or firefox 8GB is fine. 4 is fine too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I have everything from apple but I know that 8gb is basically planned obsolescence in disguise.

We pay serious extra cash for just a ‚notch’ more refined experience. However I had to try to buy every possible thing from apple at least once in my life to see if it is worth it and basically only M4 iPad Pro 13 is truly worth the money and irreplaceable for me.

Everything else is nice for someone who is super lazy like me but can be easily replaced with not much difference for cheaper shit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'd love to have 8GB of RAM. The SOC I'm working with has only 2K ;-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

2 kilobytes?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes. 2 kilobytes. Coincidentally, this is as big as the displays internal buffer, so I cannot even keep a shadow copy of it in my RAM for the GUI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I've never seen backbuffer called shadow copy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bet your compiler isnt running on that hardware either ;-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Luckily, no ;-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Come on, man, AVR chips aren't SoCs except in the technical sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No AVR, it's a small LPC from NXP. Chosen for the price, of course, but I have to somehow squeeze the software in it. At this point, even 8k would make me happy...

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh man, I remember so many people defended 8GB since the M1 first came out (and since).

I always argued it would significantly reduce the lifetimes of these machines if you bought one, not just because you’d be swapping a lot more on the (soldered in BTW) ssd, but because after a few years of updates it would become unbearably slow, or hardware would fail, or both.

Didn’t stop people constantly “tHe aRchITecTuRE iS cOmPlETelY diFFeRenT!!!”

Sure it’s different, but it’s still just a computer. A technical person can still look at the spec sheet and calculate effective performance accounting for bus widths etc.

Disclosure: I bought a top spec 16GB M1 Mac Air on launch and have been extremely happy with it - it’s still going strong.

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