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I expected ridiculous propaganda from Adobe, but they give absolutely no reasons why Photoshop is better than Gimp and list a bunch of things that Gimp can do too.

They only mention Gimp a few times at the top and they never mention it again after:

How is Photoshop different from Gimp?

They ask a question they literally never answer.

They could have lied, they could have stretched the truth, they could have brought up the paltry number of things Photoshop does that Gimp can't. They never do. They never say what Gimp can or can't do.

Like I said, I expected ridiculous propaganda. I didn't expect them to just pretend Gimp doesn't exist in their article about Gimp.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

It's just standard corporatese - if it's not insulting your intelligence they're not doing it right.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I truly hate how shit like Adobe and ProTools become the only acceptable software to use "inside the industry". Plenty of independent self publishers use tools like Gimp and Reaper. But the velvet rope mindset refuses to accept that in certain circles.

Those same types of folks are the most likely to get replaced by AI. So maybe that will be some bittersweet Schadenfreude.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Protools can suck it. :) REAPER is where it's at.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think, for the most part, is that GIMP is obscure. Not as in 'unknown' but as in 'really hard to master, how does anything work?' It has been this way, voluntarily.

I think it's what lacks in GIMP, a good user experience.

I have used gimp for the better part of the last ten years. It's good. I have used Photoshop less than ten times in the same timespan. But when I need to do something, it will always be easier to me on photoshop, eveh though I'm not acquainted with it...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I do wonder what differences in philosophy and development led to something like Blender to be pretty accepted even in pro circles?

For me, personally, the moment I found out you can easily install a version of gimp that doesn't distribute it's tools and canvas across a dozen windows was when it began to feel "right" for me. Granted, I am only using it as an amateur for meme and touching up on graphics for game dev, but it feels right to me at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I barely use GIMP, but years ago I heard about it and gave it a go. It simultaneously opened three or four seemingly random windows and no actual workspace as far as I can tell. I immediately gave up. It wasn't until recently that I had a reason to try again, and at this point I had forgotten the absurd situation I ran away from the first time. Luckily they've made some improvements since then. It's still a bit obtuse, but I hear a big update is coming soon that might fix some of the UI issues?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Photoshop lets you draw a circle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's more complex. In Photoshop, it's a single tool. In GIMP, you make a circular selection, convert it to a path, and then stroke the path.

Not only is this more convoluted, it's bewilderingly unintuitive to beginners and is definitely one of GIMP's shortcomings.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One can reduce to two steps:

  1. Draw elipse selection
  2. Fill with paint bucket

I'll not disagree that it is unintuitive, however. But, that was not the statement.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't do the same thing, I guess the goal is really how to draw the outline of a circle

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah. That's different. The way that I'd do it, supposing it didn't need to be perfect (I'd use a vector-based program like Inkscape for that), would be to create the selection, paint bucket, contact selection by desired number of pixels, clear. Not as good as converting to a path but more intuitive to me having learned PS circa early 2000s.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In ~~Photoshop~~ paint, it's a single tool.

I think the real reason so many people hate GIMPs flow is that it doesn't match the free paint tool that comes with every Microsoft OS since before I was born.

This would help explain why people who have never used PS even 10 years ago would regularly bounce off GIMP for making no intuitive sense

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

In every fucking program ever it's a single tool.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

This one hurt.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

I use Photopea, it's a website so no download and does 99% of what Photoshop and GIMP can do.

Made by a single Ukrainian developer, and free (with some ads on the side while you're using it)

[–] [email protected] 108 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How is Photoshop different from Gimp?

Photoshop is a subscription-based...

Oh, so Gimp is better then, thanks Adobe!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I so laughed when i saw they already start with that lol

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Obligatory: Do people not know that Krita exists?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Krita isn't for image editing

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

I've found Krita to be a less clumsy way to edit images than GIMP, been using it that way for years.

Yes, GIMP is powerful when used correctly, but Krita is far closer to Photoshop in terms of UI and out of the box features.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It isn't for image editing

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well I'm not gonna stop doing it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No, don't you understand? It is not for image editing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Fun fact: Krita started its lifespan as an image editor before becoming focused on illustration.

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