Politicians say a lot of things
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Yeah but when it comes to war mongering they usually follow through.
Oh for fuck's sake...
Specifically with Hezbollah, right? Not a broader war with Lebannon, right?
For now. Unfourtuantly, that is not the way wars work.
First of all, Hezbolla is part of the Lebanese government (and has a more powerful military than Lebanon proper), so the chance of Lebanon supporting an Israeli campaign against Hezbolla is effectively nil.
Second of all, Israel is clearly on an escalatory ladder since October 7, and has shown no interest in getting off. The conflict between Israel and Hezbolla has been a thing since Hezbollas founding, and has escalated to wars before. However, this latest round of conflict is clearly an escallation of the war in Gaza. An escallation that both Israel and Hezbolla keep poking at.
Unless Israel changes its stance, this is not going to end with a war in Lebanon. Remember Iran? Back in April, Israel launched a largely unprovoked attack on Iran in Syria, killing a fairly high ranking member of Iran's military (along with others, including some Syrian civilians).
In addition to being a potential war crime (they bombed a diplomatic building, although there is an argument that the details make it allowed under intetnational law), this was also simply an act of war against Syria and Iran. 2 countries that Israel is not at war with, and which are clearly not interested in going to war.
Syrua let Israel off with a finger wagging. Iran let Israel off with a telegraphed missile strike that they knew had a high chance of being completely intercepted. Or at least they tried to, But Israel couldn't take the win, and so launched another strike against Iran. Similar to Iran, Israel calculated this one to be limited. However, unlike Israel, Iran took the opportunity to back off.
Netenyahu specifically has been trying to start a war with Iran for decades, and is now actively escalating with Iranian proxies.
From the US perspective, this is frustrating because this is exactly what we have been warning Israel about, and exactly what Israel has been ignoring us about. You could argue that October 7 and the subsequent war are a consequence of decades of Israeli policy combided with a tactical/intelligence failure allowing the specific attack to succeed.
However the current round of escallation with Hezbolla is a direct and predictable consequence of the strategic decisions that Israel has made in responce to October 7. Strategic decisions that the entire world had cautioned them against. Strategic decisions that senior IDF leaders have admitted cannot possibly achieve their objectives.
When this escalates into a full scale regional war with Iran, that will also have been a consequence of Israeli strategic decisions. And the US will again be asked to bail them out
"Yes, also everyone in Lebanon is automatically Hezbollah"
Republican and moderate Dem politicians support the genocide, because Israel pays some people to support them, and pays for the campaigns of some people who already support them.
The American people largely dont support Israel's actions, we just don't get a say in our government anymore thanks to money in politics and primaries not being binding elections and open to manipulation.
Jfc. U.S. is determined to keep warring for profit.
It's been so profitable for nearly a hundred years, why stop now?
A hundred years? All of human history more like.
War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
Smedley Butler wrote that in 1935.
Yes, and for the US, that was nearly a hundred years ago.
Read literally the second sentence I quoted.
You're not wrong. But this is our tax payer money being flushed down the toilet to make war profiteering companies more money. I guess go buy some military contractor stocks since it doesn't look like we have any representatives that can actually stop this bullet train to WWIII.
Uhh, Hezbollah is unequivocally the bad guys in that potential conflict. Doesn't make Israel the good guys, mind you...
Huh? How so? Hezbollah, like everyone else actually doing something, want Israel to stop genociding Gaza.
Bro its guys with guns affiliated with Iran... These ain't our friends. But if they want to fight Israel good for them. About time Israel entered FO stage IMHO
And? Does that automatically make them the bad guys in anything they do? You just dropped a logical fallacy and left.
I am in the westoid camp and they funded by our geopolitical rival. Why would I shill for that shit?
Obviously if they want to check Israel, good for them! Fuck our greatest ally.
So it's tribalism? I mean at least try to make it sound reasonable. Yes, fuck your greatest ally trying to commit genocide.
I am not following, what reason would have to support Iranian clown theology or its proxies?
In this case they're the good side because they're trying to stop genocide so... that.
they're trying to stop genocide
Lol how naive is u?
You'll need more argument in your argument before you get a response here.
Hezbollah has been retaliating against Israeli aggression on Lebanon. Israel has been stepping up attacks on Lebanon in the past 6-8 months in an effort to (I assume) drag the US into a war with Iran. Iran who's actually been incredibly restrained in their responses to Israeli and American aggression.
Neither US nor Iran have anything to gainnfrom this. Hopefully greatest ally fails. They are really creating a lot of needless problems, it is getting tiring.