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I know I can spoof my useragent, it's just ridiculous that such a massive app doesn't support an equally massive browser.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have I ever told you the story of Darth Microsoft Teams? Only Chrome and Edge. Some limited stuff works in Firefox, but it's flaky at best.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

As a firefox user... This.
Calls work now, but dont you dare share a screen in the call.

... But meetings work fine, even if you share a screen. Thanks microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Firefox doesn't support snapchat? Finally a good feature.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

But it's the fourth most popular browser according to your chart. Considering there's probably 2 billion browser users, that's something in the ballpark of 40 million users. 20 if you say 1 billion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

On desktop (which is what the website in question is mostly loaded in) is 6,6%. Still isnt huge but definitely more significant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow Firefox just barely beats out Samsung internet and opera???

I knew chrome had the majority but I didn't know even edge was above Firefox in market share.

There's like 30 people at the company I work for. 8 of them use Firefox only, about 10 of them use Firefox half of the time when chrome breaks or hogs every resource possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

REMINDER: These market share figures are self reported based on browser user agents. For over a decade now, Firefox requires you to opt into this reporting. Its true that Firefox has been slipping in market share, and that things can be rather gloomy, but they're not as doomed as its widely reported. The big driver of declining market share for Firefox these days is CTOs telling their engineering directors to not check Firefox compatibility because they perceive it as wasted time for 6.6% of people. The easiest way to combat Google Chrome's hegemony is to show friends and family that actually most of the internet works on Firefox despite what you've been told, and that also Firefox isn't somehow outdated

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Use a user agent switcher, works for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I can reach the login page on FF Mobile with user agent switcher + desktop mode

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

… Snapchat for web??? Wtf

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just want to say, this is less bad than websites requiring that you use internet explorer.

Those were dark days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's just slightly less bad cause it requires a chromium based browser

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's good, just less bad.

Now instead of being crammed into a single option, you get the "choice" of several (probably equally bad) options.

Honestly, everything should just conform to standards, and it's up to the browser to support those standards. If your browser doesn't support it, well, good luck.

Not this bullshit of "your browser isn't compatible with this website". Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fuck every form of this. Website: you deliver the document, and I decide if it works.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are supposed to do feature detection, not user agent detection since it is easily spoofed, isn’t realiable, & doesn’t account for literally all the alternative UAs that can support it. This is bad/lazy practice.

Fx doesn’t always have all the features you need, but often it usually does & where I have seen this as being deployed is management saying it isn’t worth the effort to support. Just having one person on the team running Fx is usually enough to catch the game-breaking bugs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FYI navigator.platform and friends will still return Linux, even in Tor Browser... so it's still trivially easy to detect your OS, Browser etc. and block that even without the user agent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That’s still not feature detection & is in the exact same sniffing category

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what's even the advantage in this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Something marketing and having your service not appear dysfunctional or buggy to the stupid, stupid enduser

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Also avoids firefox privacy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

doesn't it utilize some fancy camera APIs or whatever? last time I tried it on firefox with a spoofed user agent there were errors in the console

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah it just won't let me in on firefox at all, i had to use chr*mium 🤮 in a vm to get in

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

holy shit stop using snapchat

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

That's the real story here. That someone's still using Snapchat in 2024

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