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Big tech companies are still trying to rally workers back into physical offices, and many workers are still not having it. Based on a recent report, computer-maker Dell has stumbled even more than most.

Dell announced a new return-to-office initiative earlier this year. In the new plan, workers had to classify themselves as remote or hybrid.

Those who classified themselves as hybrid are subject to a tracking system that ensures they are in a physical office 39 days a quarter, which works out to close to three days per work week.

Alternatively, by classifying themselves as remote, workers agree they can no longer be promoted or hired into new roles within the company.

Business Insider claims it has seen internal Dell tracking data that reveals nearly 50 percent of the workforce opted to accept the consequences of staying remote, undermining Dell's plan to restore its in-office culture.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Promotions aren't a thing anymore anyways, are they? Only if you switch jobs can you get a raise

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Going to use this chance to vent about the fact that when the senior guy on my team left for another company it was basically all but confirmed I would take over his role I had been there the longest, was already doing a lot of senior work, and was the giy people on the team came to when they needed help, to the point we spent the month or so after he handed in his notice to train me on what he did and give me access to the systems he managed. Then a week after he left my boss announced that the guy that had been there 3 months would be taking on the senior role.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Who's kid was he?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I sure hope you are able to and are actively looking for a different employer. That sucks man...sorry to hear it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A few jobs back, my employer promoted me once within a year of starting from a new college graduate position to a junior position, then strung me along for three years with "you're just not quite ready for a mid level position but you will be. Any day now!" This was all in spite of me doing the work of a senior position within the company for the last two years.

So I got a job at a different employer and went from a junior position to a senior position, like magic, nearly doubling my total income in the process. My coworker did the same, hopping from a senior position to a management position at my current employer. I've increasingly observed how corporate United States is painfully stupid and inefficient and it continues to boggle my mind

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I've increasingly observed how corporate United States is painfully stupid and inefficient and it continues to boggle my mind

B-b-but capitalism! Will rule out inefficient companies!

Yeah. The world is broken.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is not just the US, it is the norm world wide.

It’s also not limited to job relations either. “New customer? Let me show you this sweet deal.” - “Oh, you’re already a customer? Then it’s full price I’m afraid”

You need to regularly review/change contracts.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Back in my (born 1996) days, the longer you were a customer the sweeter deals you had. 8 years already a customer? Maybe we can strike a cheaper offer rather than you running to someone else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm in Australia and we still do this? I have a loyalty discount for being a customer for 7 years, AU$57/month for unlimited data on my mobile and free calls to 40 countries ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

They got rid of it here, sadly. Or at least i haven't seen any loyalty behavior from the big brands lately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I might be older than your dad and I don’t recall seeing an offer like this. 😊

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Used to be the norm here in Czechia, maybe your country wasn't as progressive 🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Well, I think many people on lemmy don't live in country that once was one of 15-states multinational conglomerate for universal healthcare, universal education, universal housing and long term planning. Not that such planning was very good at the end of it. Or not that it wasn't occasionallly sidetracked with killing people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I am their dad and I have no idea what they're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, idk of people actually just get promoted to a new job. I always have to apply to av internally posted position. If I get it I guess I technically get promoted.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remember people, the power is in the workforce.

The greatest con ever conducted was to convince the largest population of people on the face of the planet, the middle class that we have no power.

We hold literally all the power.

All we have to do is collectively as a society stand up to these corporations and tell them that we will work only on our terms not on theirs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's not that the middle class has no power, it simply has too much to lose if they choose to revolt.

What if your revolution fails and you lose your money and your house? What if it succeeds and your new government decides you have too much?

That is why the middle class is a stabilising force in country's politics. And if they lose their stuff, and feel like they have nothing to lose but their chains, then some higher ups lose their heads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Well, the revolt I was more or less referring to would be against private/public business.

We need to as a society start dictating how much things should cost.

Like inflation for example wouldn't exist if as a whole population we simply didn't pay the difference in increased price.

Business would eventually start pricing their good and services to where people wanted to pay as long as they paid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Gotta keep on a tight leash, but not too tight. God I love capitalism ^/s^

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

If these companies were serious about on-site work and how much better it is, they would pay for time while commuting and transportation expenses.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

A nice and public "fuck you" to C-level staff in tech. Remote work isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So the workers opted to continue remote work at the convenience of not getting promoted, and I bet my top dollar they lost any motivation they had and are all now looking for new gigs 😂

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looking for new gigs is currently the new normal regarding promotions anyway, according to HMW. Since companies have long shown that have no loyalty to their workforce and will lay them off as soon as they need their numbers to go up for shareholders.

And new hires to positions get paid better than promotions from within to the same positions. So it's better just to routinely keep sending out résumés to openings.

So the no promotions threat is mostly a paper tiger.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's true, whenever I'm done with my salary I go for a new gig. Huge percentage of increase every time instead of this corp-speak "1-3%" bullshit. With job change I typically see around 30%

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Sad trombone? Small violin?

They prolly knew the risk otherwise they would never give that choice. Good for dell wagies!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Dell Managers revealed as weenies.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

haha get fucked dell

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