I've noticed a trend in some new American media coming out of more openly positive depictions of socialism/communism. The new HBO The Last Of Us series for example has this scene, and the new Fallout series has a more centrist/neoliberal take but at least calls out how the right uses communist as a "dirty word," though she qualifies the statement by first saying "I'm not a communist."
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The new HBO The Last Of Us series for example has this scene,
I love that scene. It's so authentic: hearing a white American describe his successful living arrangement as literal communism but saying it's not communism, and a black American correcting him. 100 years of Red Scare and minority struggle captured in a few lines of dialogue.
I don't like the implication that full communism is only possible after a zombie apocalypse though lol
More like the dissolvement of US hegemony.
I don't think that's what they were going with.
Caveat that I have not played the games, but taking the series at face value they are highly US-centric like most Hollywood productions. It makes no sense arguing on the basis of the series alone what they are going with in this regard, since all the action takes place in the US it is pretty much the scope of the universe, just like in many Americans minds. I tried to make a disjoint point, that was based on how I would interpret it with complete disregard to whatever is canon to the story as a whole, taking what is presented in the first season of the series at face value.
To put this into context with Star Trek, I also find it really boring and non-immersive whenever they hold 21st century America in special consideration. It is just such an obvious way to make a comparison to current state of affairs in one particular country, placating preferences of current pop culture, which is redundant anyway since all science fiction is a universal critique of the current state of affairs anywhere simply by showing a future alternative. A hypothetical sudden end to US hegemony is actually a valid way to make the current US affairs leading up to it special with respect to the future development of mankind, and not just a boring move for views.
Well I'm not for ending US hegemony so that doesn't sound appealing to me.
That is understandable if you think only within the paradigm of some select countries dominating the rest, but that is perhaps the biggest obstacle to our gay space communist Star Trek future.
I dont believe in communism so Im not really concerned with that
I am using socialist interchangeably with communist here.
Well I'm a democratic socialist and def not a communist, so I guess there's the distinction.
Yeah, I find it odd because its Hollywood doing these references which isn't exactly a left wing institution.
Yes, although I do find that the penal labor in the Federation prisons are a bit concerning for a utopia
Ironically The Orville did that better by saying there are no prisons anymore in the Planetary Union.
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