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Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws (www.engadget.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (7 children)

TBH I kinda agree with the states here.. I started watching porn waaayyyy too early and it's fucking me up.. without a doubt.. I shouldn't have seen all the things I looked for and now I gotta put up with it.

But I also agree with PornHubs decision. There is no way to verify age without exposing your identity. There isn't even a way to trust a 3rd party to verify someone's age.

There really isn't a middle ground, the only way to protect kinds (like little me) is to block the porn. But websites go on and offline every few minutes, VPNs and Tor are free and hard to blacklist.

How do we censor internet porn?? ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

[–] [email protected] 83 points 5 months ago (4 children)

the only way to protect kinds (like little me) is to block the porn.

This is false.

Parents have a number of options available to them that do no need to involve the state.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How about less "control everyone else" and more "control your own damn kids".

My daughter didn't get unsupervised access until she proved responsible enough to trust. I want to say around 13.

Just because "I grew up with it unsupervised and it ruined me" doesn't immediately equal "everyone will have this experience". Sorry your parents didn't understand what you were doing. Sorry you saw stuff that bothered you. Don't punish everyone else for it.

I'm far from a helicopter parent... Instead, my kid has come to me for help in resolving uncomfortable or problematic interactions. We've always been clear and honest about why we've asked her to avoid certain things. Even when it made us uncomfortable. Especially then.

She's 20 now. Most cheerful kid I've ever met. No idea how that happened directly, but I know I can trust her.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the part these points miss is that a lot of kids don't have good or involved parents, and they shouldn't have to suffer disproportionately because of it

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Parental controls exists, and it’s on the parent to use them. Easier now than ever before.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 5 months ago (4 children)

All these states are Small Government Freedom states!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Pornhub is only pulling out to punish the states for trying to stand up to them. In classic American monopoly fashion they go on the attack as soon as any legislation targets them.

Pornhub claims the reason is because they dont to collect government ID but Pornhub collects user data and understands who their customers are. Adding government ID to their data would hardly be anymore of a privacy invasion and it's not like they are forced to store it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

attack

They just pull out of those states. How is that an attack?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Lol wuht

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imo this law is actually in a way pushing for a porn monopoly, if you by law need to provide an id, are you gonna trust some random site with that info or the big one everyone uses

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

OP's claim here is just BS. PornHub is in no way a monopoly or even close. It reads like someone who has literally never searched for porn on the internet. Astroturf.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

PornHub is a monopoly. They own xnxx, redtube, xhamster, and several production companies such as brazzers. Their categorization system has also had some ranging impacts on actresses' ability to get work after they turn 22. I highly recommend listening to The Butterfly Effect by Jon Ronson.

ALSO so we're clear, I'm not a fan of this legislation because its dumb as fuck and doesn't help anyone, least of all sex workers. When people lose easy access to porn it usually results in WORSE conditions for sex workers because suddenly there's more demand in places without safety infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Can you define what part of PornHub owning a lot of other porn sites makes them a monopoly? Part of being a monopoly is being anticompetitive. What has PornHub done in terms of lobbying or other anticompetitive practices which makes it more difficult for a new company sharing porn to take hold? Because there is a ton of porn online which is unrelated to PornHub.

I'm all for calling out monopolies, but I legit don't see one here. I'm open to being wrong.

I don't believe that the thing about actresses getting work after 22 is reliant on PornHub. Porn has worked that way for 50+ years my dude.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I was just in Utah for business and didn't even realise there was a block. I didn't go to pornhub but all my regular sites just worked. 🤷‍♂️🍆

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

With other industries, owning 5, 10, 15 other sites might be indicative of a monopoly. But there is a metric fuckton of porn online.

Edit: pardon me, a *metric fucktonne

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's that in imperial shitloads?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I'm sure inflation has affected that too

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've never, ever seen anyone lick boots harder than this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

OK

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (3 children)

VPN business must be so hot right now

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately they'll go after that next.

I'm legitimately surprised at the number of pro-government control comments in this thread, though. We are truly doomed because of the people in the back.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I find it funny that the same people who are against government regulations and giving more power to the state are the ones voting for this. They also seem to be so poorly informed that they think it'll stop anyone from watching this content lol.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago

Yeah, well that's the thing: they like the idea of being against government regulations, but if it is presented to them as a moral issue, they eat it up.

Case in point: a comment in this thread loosely trying to pose PH's response as being against states' rights -- in this case, due to the states tacitly regulating morality. I'm sure if the issue was e.g. raising state taxes, all of a sudden states' rights wouldn't matter.

The right wing learned a while ago that if you can pose anything as morality, there is a whole class of people that will simply lick the boot.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

As a Virginian, I hadn't subscribed to a VPN until our legislators decided to pull this shit.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Good riddance. Fucking weirdos, every other site figured it out.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Name one pls

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (6 children)

nhentai did

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

which sites ask for IDs?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

"Every other site", obvs, it's right there in the comment. You mean you're not uploading your driver's license to watch someone get railed?!

/s

[–] [email protected] 78 points 5 months ago (2 children)

regulate my internet traffic harder daddy

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there'd only be one website left, and it'd be called "Bring Back the Porn!"

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

-Dr. Cox

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Over the past year, Pornhub had to make the difficult decision to block access to users in numerous American states due to newly passed Age Verification laws (Texas, Utah, Arkansas, Virginia, Montana, North Carolina, Mississippi). In July 2024, we will unfortunately be blocking several more states who are introducing similar laws. (Indiana, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky and Nebraska.)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pornhub should buy a VPN service. Just cut out the middle man.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The middle-man provides plausible deniability in this case. PornHub can genuinely say they don't see connections from age-verification states atm. That stops being true if they host the VPN, making them aware of actual client locations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wonder if a parent company could own them both.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago

Brought to you by NordVPN

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