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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (9 children)

At least for me the reasons are

  1. Lack of interest
  2. They're ridiculously Ugly
  3. Range (I’ve driven 1500 miles in the last 3 weeks)
  4. Driving Experience is worse (opinion, but still something I stand by)
  5. Charging
  6. Price

When I was looking at new cars an EV wasn’t even an option. I wanted a 2 door performance coupe and there isn’t anything even close to that in EVs, let alone on the used market. A 2014 Audi was a better choice in almost every metric beyond gas prices.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Were waiting for the next wave of $25k EV since there is no hope that the tariffs on the only country with enough scale to build affordable EV is on a 100% tariff.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Too expensive. Not owner repairable. Too much unnecessary tech baked in.

There’s a path forward for EV’s, but I don’t think the current philosophy is it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Dacia spring has no unnecessary tech 😍 and is cheap

But, it is small 😂🤷🏻‍♀️ big enough for my family, at least.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

😂 I don’t plan to go to US anytime soon

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Me neither, but this is an article about Americans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

True that..

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Where I live, there's one charging station. And it's like 8 miles or so from my house. I've yet to see more. It's also a fairly rural area. I think we forget how much population lives outside cities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You don’t have electricity in your house??

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

IDK about houses, but this would be the case for people in apartment buildings. What should you do? Not even joke about "lowering a cord from your window" because it's not guaranteed that your street parking is near your windows!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yes, of course, but in remote areas you very rarely have apartment buildings, as I recall.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My co-worker has an electric car and lives in an apartment without a charger. Luckily our office has a few chargers and he only needs to charge it once or twice a week. If he really needed it he could charge at a public fast charger somewhere else in town, but he tries to avoid that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, my office has a couple free chargers. It’s really not worth the fuss for me since I can charge at home and it’s a short commute but I’m happy to see there’s always a queue

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It definitely has nothing to do with the outrageous starting price range.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Yup, American manufacturers are still treating EVs as if they're this exotic new toy for upper-middle class people or silicon valley douche bros, rather than getting onboard with the concept of them just being a utilitarian thing that needs to be marketed to normal people.

Give me the EV equivalent of the Geo Metro and I'll buy it in a heart beat. I'm not taking out a second mortgage for a car that tries to drive itself and whatever dumb gimmicks they come up with, but I will 100% buy an affordable, practical EV designed with efficiency and economy in mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is not a defense of the manufacturers, but EVs are still damn expensive to make. And they are completely at fault for that too, because everyone except Tesla dragged their feet about making the EV transition.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Right, and worse. After years of dragging their feet, broadcasting FUD to discourage potential customers, they try to all release premium priced cars at once to now uncertain customers. And priced well above their initial announcements. Of course their naive predictions of ridiculous growth didn’t pan out. They’re not just guilty of dragging their feet, but screwing up when they finally tried it.

And what the heck is wrong with GM? The second biggest American seller of EVs, and they drop what has been working, to make the same mistake as everyone else. And wtf were they thinking about piling on with dropping CarPlay and claiming they can do better: wtf, we e seen what you can do, that’s why everyone wants CarPlay. Oh, and I’m sure all this talk about subscriptions is really going to bring in the buyers

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

2026 Bolt could change that. Hopefully the ultium system is fixed up by then. Also base model Volvo EX30s are going to come from Belgium to maintain their mid 30's price point.

What we really need is the government to make a grant or low interest loan available to anyone with a parking lot and an electrical hookup to put in fast chargers. Everything from libraries to gas stations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I'm with you. I ended up just buying a used gas vehicle because the others are just too expensive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

If my - or any other - complex had charging stations, I'd consider it. The most I'd ever be able to get is a hybrid, if I wasn't so dirt-ass poor that an old and busted used car was the best that I could afford, because I'm disabled and live in friggin America.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Can anyone name me one that is a normal fucking car? With a little dial that tells you how fast you're going that isn't an LCD display that can't be read in direct sunlight connected to an internet connected computer that will never get OS updates? With a gear shift lever that moves forward and back or up and down to select park, reverse and drive, not a nipple in the glove box to lick for "Forward," a knob on the ceiling labeled "H" and to put it in reverse you honk the word REVERSE on the horn? Where the doors have handles that you pull on to open that look like door handles, and locks that have cylinders that accept keys?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The 2023 Chevy Bolt I drove for a week had normal controls.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Volkswagen E-golf seems to fit your description.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Been Driving one for almost 6 years and I gotta tell you the car is awesome. Sadly the battery-capacity is a bit dated. Depends on the use-case tho. Another negative point is the limited charging speed. In comparison to „modern“ EVs it‘s rather slow

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The only ones I've found close to this is bz4x or soltera. Which is why I got it. But no drive shaft really sucks and confuses the heck out of me when I have to drive my outback around.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think most people in the market for an EV know that all the manufacturers are changing the charging port to the Tesla NACS standard next year. Range anxiety is still the biggest issue for EV adoption and the supercharger network is the only practical option right now. Tesla hasn’t innovated in a while and current Tesla owners are put off by Musk’s antics. I’d personally wait a year to see what the options are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Range anxiety is still the biggest issue for EV adoption

Only because people keep making false claims like:

the supercharger network is the only practical option right now

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because the most environmentally friendly car, is the one you already own.

Producing ev is heavy strain on the climate. This change won't happen overnight.

Ev needs to be better and cheaper if it wants to defeat the ice market.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It already is better and cheaper, but we have regressive tariffs on the country producing them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

We have to switch at some point. We can't just keep making ICE cars and saying the next generation will be electric.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying since EVs hit the market that I couldn't wait for them to be cheap enough used for me to justify purchasing one. That hasn't happened yet. Most I've ever spent on a car was $7k.

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