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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I seem to recall that some papers took it upon themselves to publish names and pictures of "Johns" - I guess prostitution is legal for some, but not for others? Some Johns deserve to be named and shamed, but others, not so much?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does the title not say his name and does the article not have his picture?

What are you saying here?

The “John” is Matt Gaetz. He paid for sex. He allegedly (and very likely did) groomed and raped minors. He is named.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

We'll find out eventually that the real investigation is over the fact that he paid in the first place, and didn't follow their Lord and Savior's command to simply grab them by the pussy. Perhaps Gaetz wasn't famous enough at the time, so they didn't let him do it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

I bet we will end up pissed that the DOJ dropped their Gaetz investigation. Suddenly, many witnesses are being found besides his buddy Joel Greenberg?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

“Witness” I’m guessing too young to ~~say a name~~ give names.

Edit: pointless pedantry

[–] [email protected] 180 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Never forget, Al Franken resigned when old pictures of him goofing around came out.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Al's problem is the woman's complaint was clearly performative, but there was no way for him to say that without relying on the rhetoric of rape denialists and victim blamers. If he had fought back against it, he would forever be invoked in both sides arguments.

That's the downside of being the party of empathy and human dignity.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

And also that Gillibrand was forcing him onto that sword to up her own "Me Too" cred.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

At the time, a lot of people wanted Al to push back. I'm glad he didn't because sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, me too! I'd totally rather die in a camp or be deported than stand for my values and fight for what's right, especially if it might give the appearance that I'm compromising on my values which I'm absolutely willing to compromise in the interest of politics. /s

Snark aside, I wish we'd stood up for Anthony Weiner. Dude was legit amazing back in the day. Corporate media networks were absolutely gleeful to tear him down and people just watched it happen and laughed the whole time. Then again, I think maybe my values are just more in line with the idea of actually accomplishing political goals (read: legislation and policy) and not so much with making performative gestures that only serve to hurt said political goals. Obviously, in Weiner's case dude committed crimes (iirc), but again he was an incredible politician, which is what he was hired for. Politicians are tools, like doctors and mechanics, they're not our friends; they're fellow citizens that provide a necessary service. I wouldn't let Weiner or my mechanic babysit but that doesn't mean they're not skilled at what they do.

Anyway, we're probably going to just continue arguing about bs like this while the right consolidates power and supports ruthless leaders. All while we're asking/tearing down our leaders what pronouns they use or their opinions on eating steak or who knows what. Else Not saying pronouns and the beef industry/climate change aren't important to some/many people - power to em, for sure - but it seriously feels like people need to get a grip. The distractions are real. We need to focus!

/rant

I'll miss Al Franken and I was disappointed he didn't stand up for himself. His supporters and his constituents deserved that, imo

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

we lost the war. 6 supreme court justices.

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