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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Maybe I'm too young or just had bad luck, but ALL the interactions I've ever had with Internet forums have been unbelievably awful. Whenever I asked a question, I was asked why I wanted to know that and was lectured that my reasons were stupid, bad, or wrong (how is that even possible?). People hijacked my post and talked about anything else, and I received NO answer whatsoever! This kind of thing happened way too often, regardless of the type of forum. This occurred in Skyrim forums, Coh2 forums, PC forums, aquarium forums, ... I hate forums. It's good that they are dying, and I, for one, will not miss them at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd call Reddit and the Threadiverse and Usenet and such forums. They're just broad, with many different categories, or "meta-forums", as compared to a site with a dedicated-to-a-single-topic forum.

Some other drawbacks of having many independent forums:

  • You have to create and maintain a ton of accounts.

  • Different, incompatible markup syntax.

  • Often missing features (e.g. Markdown has tables; few forums let one create tables)

  • Some forum systems ordered comments by time rather than parent comment, which was awful to browse.

  • Often insane requirements to get an account. I can think of a few forums that were very difficult to get access to, either because the "new user" system was incompatible with some email system or just had other problems.

I mean, there are a lot of websites with "comment" sections, which is kind of a lightweight forum attached to a webpage, and they're almost invariably awful.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ugh... This was already mentioned before in another channel. Did you even read the rules? Modding you down and banned.

(These actions haven't been better, in fact they tend to be worse. I'll take PC forums over this ego tripping mod actions).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

You do you, but apparently more people tend to dislike forums as time goes on.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm kind of wondering what forums you visited.

What however is a recurrent issue with young people on forums is them asking questions that have already been answered a million times. On sites like reddit & discord, that's the norm, we need new content all the time, the 526th person asking just keeps the social media going.

On forums however the etiquette is that you do some effort yourself, and something that gets asked that often is either a sticky, or a long running thread with all the information you could possibly want (but you'll need to invest some of your own time to get the information from there). And if you then arrive on the forum, read nothing, and ask the same question... again... yeah... you won't be welcomed with open arms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I wish I would just have gotten a Link to a Post where the Answer to my Question is, but I just got this BS.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, the layout and formatting of forums just isn't as good as the way comments are sorted and how they can spawn side discussions like on Reddit or Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the main difference just that forums are focused on longer discussions, and reddit/lemmy are focused on a constant stream of content?

I'd prefer forums for a lot of my interests, a well managed forum will contain long in depth discussion regarding important topics that the likes of lemmy/reddit/discord either don't, or if they do, good luck finding it. If however you just want to visit it in the morning and see something different than you saw yesterday, yeah for just raw speed of content, forums suck.

But is that really better?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

At least the Fediverse exists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been complaining about this for years now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for your contribution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You're welcome!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just to pose a thought; how practical would it be for a small subject owner to run a FediVerse instance intended to stay localized to their domain?

For example: Indie game owner makes a reasonably popular game, they set up a website that Lemmy users can subscribe/join directly, and use that for forums/tips/discussions related to their game. People don't need to register as long as they have an account somewhere. Some number of users would be new to Lemmy and use that site's registration for later discovery. And, someday when X instance (the game, or the next popular one) gets infested by neonazis, everyone just moves to another and/or has other discussions backed up.

I don't know how practical or convenient that is though. I imagine a lot of groups don't want to risk lost users.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I like your idea

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Honestly who uses discord nowadays? its completely unbearable

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Discord is great for casual chatting. Was it ever intended to be a forum though? For that use case, it's completely impractical.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

its completely unbearable

How so?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Discord is OK for real-time chat or VC, but is awful for forum-like discussions. Comment-specific context is lost in the single-threaded noise and search is borderline useless. The true forum-designed format of Lemmy, Reddit, and predecessors is far and away better. In my opinion Twitter - the legacy, ubiquity and tech - would be a better forum than Discord. That was hard to type and I need to quickly bleach my fingers.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it's all the ppl who unironically use "kitten"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Internet Forums disappearing is a real shame.

For my hobby there's still lots and lots of old and relevant archived forum threads that regularly help me out.

But for new information, that has all moved to Facebook Groups. This forces me to keep a Facebook account, which I hate and would otherwise ditch in a heartbeat.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I actually went out and looked up a bunch of forums after the Reddit controversy last year. They're slow, but I actually feel comfortable just browsing through and only posting if I feel like I can actually contribute. I would definitely recommend just going out and hunting for boards relevant to your interests.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

remember myspace? thats what reddit is. an ancient webartifact.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would had concern over internet forums disappearing back in 2015-2012, but now a days, I don't worry as much. if it wasn't being replaced by the fediverse. Well maybe not replaced, but it is an alternative that has some good activity surprisingly and still growing, thanks to Mastodons marketing. It's like an upgraded forums. And everyone can communicate no matter where they go on the Fediverse.

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