Is the header image on that page an intentional joke at the expense of GenAI, or did someone seriously make that and add it to the page? Do they autogenerate their pics?
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2024
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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Contovicsy isn't a river in Ukraine.
i think they honestly think this shit is cool
Hard to know if "Contovicsy" is an AI in-joke or a Grauniad in-joke. Or neither.
The more I look, the more I'm sure it's just bad GenAI art. I mean, look at the random Big Ben with newspaper art extending into the ether behind it, the off-center knight-in-orb, the decomposed microscope thing, the physically impossible structural shadow on the disproportionate globe that simultaneously shows from Panama east to Borneo but somehow lacks India...
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Do you think it was NZ? I kept trying to figure out what it was but because India was missing I was really unclear. I also guessed “extremely large New Guinea.”
@gnomicutterance @o7___o7 Extremely Large New Guinea is a variant of Bigger Luke http://biggerluke.wikidot.com/bigger-luke
“extremely large New Guinea.”
It's just got big bones
iirc (and rough neuron lookup here:) there’s a longstanding issue with entertainment etc mapmakers that leave NZ out of their maps
Just a conspiracy of cartographers then.
ah, I was remembering half correctly, and also lol. a conspiracy is now definitely the new mental collective noun I have for cartographers
I love how you can see people rushing in to buy the prediction right after the correction happened and before the author called it. This system is very secure totally.
This is going to happen in any prediction market whose events are opened and closed manually. Unless you can automatically halt trading when the condition is met (this is probably what people call an "AI-complete" problem), there will always be people who notice the condition is met before the event runner. The unfair trades will certainly be reversed if this is a prediction market worth even a little bit of its salt.
Well, they got their wish, the Guardian piece is now updated:
This article was amended on 17 June 2024 to include a comment from Oliver Habryka about the purchase of Lighthaven that was received after publication; in responding, Habryka disclosed an escrow document for the property’s purchase showing a $1m deposit from, and refunded to, North Dimension Inc, a subsidiary of FTX’s sister company Alameda, which he said meant “the relevant funds never entered our bank account”. An earlier version mistakenly said Lightcone, rather than CFAR, was the sole member of Lightcone Rose Garden, and that Habryka was the latter’s registered agent, when another individual is listed in that role. A reference to Manifund as a “prediction market” has also been corrected.
I think the Gruaniad had a lot of fun with this. By hyperfocusing on the nitpicks, the rats gave them an open goal in correcting tiny details (who now cares whether any money from SBF actually entered the account of Lightcone?) but left the bigger details in place: namely that Lightcone is tight with racists.
and yeah, nfw this piece wasn't closely inspected by legal and the writers are thinking "please please bring it the fuck on"
habryka on LW:
(To be clear, for LessOnline we didn't invite anyone who I think even remotely fits that description, I think? It's plausible we missed something, but like, actual racism is totally the kind of thing that would have caused me to remove someone from the "blogs we love" list, if it was part of their blogging.
Manifest runs a much stronger "just invite people who are popular and share interests, with less regards for why they are popular" policy, which I think has a bunch of stuff going for it, but definitely produces a very different selection of speakers as I think is apparent from looking at the invited speaker lists.)
the long list of race scientists are not "actual racism" ok dude. this is in reply to someone saying that it was these precise people that kept him from attending
Lol this is not the great anti-racist response they might think it is.
"We would never invite (especially blatant eugenics level) racists to LessOnline! The Manifestival on the other hand... (conveniently advertised on the LessOnline homepage and discount tickets if you go to both!)"
i would think that for habryka “actual racism” means something like open calls to genocide, not, you know, actual racism.
I don't think even that does it. Richard Hanania, one of Manifest's promoted speakers, wrote "Why Do I Hate Pronouns More Than Genocide?".
i remember reading on a Right Stuff forum a guy detail why even different varieties of white people genetically couldn't get on and then say "I'm not even racist." at that point i realised there were no racist statements in the english language
Oh fuck. It took me to see the twitter avi to remember but I have Oliver Habryka registered as “absolute psychopath” in my tortured memory box since way back. Nice to see him doing so well but I wish I could remember what triggered the original mental note, assuming that it was ever anything that specific
Back in the pre-Elon days I idly wished Twitter had something like RES to be able to tag idiots. Now ofc the blue check does a good job as a first-pass filter.
LW thread linked downthread there implies that he organized lessonline
Kelsey Piper holding herself up as some avatar of responsible tech journalism, as if she isn’t…not even compromised, because I can’t accuse her of being compromised when she is explicitly in this business not even to take the rationalist side but as a literal rationalism advocate
Like you can object when someone (allegedly) goofs in writing up an investigative takedown, but at least they’re in the fucking business of starting from the facts and working up to that. And you’re personally fucking offended? Jesus fucking Christ, how high is that fucking stables you’ve built on all that sand?
You know, fuck it, pick your side and have at it, be the “reasonable one” and do your best to make everything about both sides. Please, engage in long navel-gazing private discussions with Sam Bankman-Fried about how he never actually gave a shit about anything now, including your shared ideals, now that it turns out he’s being sent down for giga fraud - we love it when you ultimately decide that that shit makes good copy. But have the basic fucking decency to at least pretend to remember what you are.
is it considered acceptable journalistic ethics at Vox for a journalist who reports on EAs and prediction markets to make prediction market bets on how a journalistic outlet will follow-up a story on prediction markets and EAs? My eyebrows have just levitated so high they've collided with a starlink swarm.
she's literally paid from an EA grant for the work at vox, so she can hardly compromise her journalistic ethics more.
There really is a difference in professional ethics guidelines, though. Matt Levine used to work at Goldman, he totally always sides with financialization, and for that matter everyone at Bloomberg is paid by Mike Bloomberg, but they still have professional guidelines preventing them from most trading.
from an SBF grant!
not that that stopped her shanking him lol
yes, she's ingroup
But betting? There’s being an insider and then there’s profiting, and aren’t most journalists prohibited from trading or betting on their covered areas?
Aren't prediction markets an attempt to turn insider trading into a productive part of society (or whatever the libertarians who love prediction markets conceptualize as society.)
but money is The Unit Of Caring
yes, she literally nicknamed herself "money"
Isn't it like not real money? Or have they changed that
Good god, that certainty. And only 56 betters? lol.
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