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I was curious what the Linux people think about Microsoft and any bad practices that most people should know about already?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

How bad is Microsoft?

Bad enough to be stay away from

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

They coined the term Embrace, Extend, Extinguish and they haven't stopped enforcing it. I haz not much faith on WSL and similar.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They tried to destroy linux and free/libre software, and when that didn't work, they started cornering the market and pushing for a move from "Free" to "Open Source." They also support SaaS model, and have made it next to impossible to get a new computer without their mediocre OS. On top of that, their OS is full of spyware, and is starting to become adware too.

But that all pales in comparison to the fact that you do not own your own OS: you can run Microsoft's OS, but you can't modify it or share it.

Oh, and this falls more in the realm of personal preference, but the deliberate lack of customizability is a real pain in the ass.

4/10 OS, only slightly better at disguising its capitalist greed than Apple.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

pushing for a move from “Free” to “Open Source.”

Can you explain more? Is that related to the clown gpl guys criticizing BSD/MIT/ISC license and laugh on FreeBSD for letting Apple to do whatever I can't remember?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How bad are we that M$ still has 75% market share on operation systems and office suites?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

What's your point? At one moment in history everybody would buy leaded fuel. That's my strawmen reply to your strawmen.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago

How bad is Microsoft?

Yes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Is this the circlejerk community of lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Instance really

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Average Reddit comment.

  • Attempts to roast everyone in the thread and dreail the thread itself by attempting to be "funny".
  • Contributes nothing to the discussion.
  • Is the reason why circle jerk threads begin at all.

You: 🤡

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What is the point of your comment? The person asked what the Linux community thinks about Microsoft and you come with this idiotic CiRcLeJerk bs? You didn't add anything to the thread.

I've learnt a bunch of horrible practices done by MS that I wasn't aware of so thank you everybody else.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

If you have been on lemmy for any amount of time, "Microsoft bad" is posted almost daily. I'm not disagreeing, yes they are bad. It's super circle jerky to post a whole thread literally asking something that is posted in comments/other posts literally daily. It's fine I just find it funny lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yep. Come join in.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As a shareholder (which I'm not), it's absolutely amazing.

As a human being though... it's simple to look at the history of the company, from its inception based on nepotism and locking-down was hitherto the common good, to going from one place of monopoly (OS, app, cloud) to another (extending to whatever is trendy at the moment e.g XR with HoloLens, AI with OpenAI, etc).

It's IMHO one of the very worst thing that could have happened to humanity in terms of cognitive empowerment. Apple is not far behind but in terms of locking up an entire ecosystem but Microsoft, sadly, is doing it better.

To clarify what I mean is that Microsoft is the business embodiment of learned helplessness. Most people would shrug at the quality of software they provide, the price, etc ONLY because they are convinced, wrongfully so, that they are is no legitimate alternative. If users were actually able to chose, not being coerced into but properly chose, by experiencing alternatives, the World would be totally different. Instead of having computer users who feel an adversarial relationship to their devices, we would have a much stronger relation of "this is MY device" the same way a lot (not all) of people have a repair toolbox at home. They know they can try to fix something in THEIR home, even improve it. Most people understand it won't be easy, they might mess it up, but it's possible to try. Not in software, and that's entirely Microsoft "success". Maybe in an alternative reality others, like Apple, would have made that happen to, but in our reality I blame Microsoft, Bill Gates upbringing from his legal mindset father and well connected mother.

We could have a world were users own their devices, have a challenging yet empowering relationship to technology, starting with software, and instead we have exploitative learning helplnessness. So yes, Microsoft is that bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I like Micsrosofts office suite, but I hate virtually everything else. I got tired of their recent decisions and bought an Apple laptop, partly because I'm getting into iOS development and wanted that experience. But my other computer is dual booted with Fedora and Windows for when I absolutely need Windows, I'll swap over, bit rarely do I outside of some gaming.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't think about Microsoft at all mostly. I supported their stuff professionally in the past and friends/family but otherwise total avoidance. They own some big game studios so I probably use some of their products like Minecraft but I haven't used their operating systems or applications for decades and I dislike and distrust cloud services and theirs is no exception. All big companies tend to be the same. Try not to depend on any of them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This thread teaches me that generally, most Linux people are looking at windows. Meanwhile Microsoft only thinks Windows is 16% of its business.

Basically, it seems, most Linux users do not think hard about Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

IIRC, Azure represents the largest slice of Microsoft's revenue... And ironically, a fair chunk of that is run on Linux

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why did you link to the Microsoft website?

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