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You heard #Adobe. Deep down you knew this was coming. Now all your art are belong to them. Time to move on to better things...

Kreative Suite
* Krita is your new design/painting app
* Kdenlive will give you video-editing powers
* glaxnimate adds 2D vector animations to you videos
* digiKam organises your collection images

https://kde.org/for/creators/
Also:
* Inkscape - create sophisticated vector-graphic designs
* Scribus - layout like a pro
* GIMP - need we say more
* Blender - ditto

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] happy to see glaxnimate officially promoted by KDE.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

@[email protected] @[email protected]
Just a matter of time before Microsoft do something similar with #recall

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Gimp is not ready and the best alternative is the Windows only intensionally Linux incompatible Affinity Photo.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Y'all dont block all the .exe files with your firewall? I been doing that for years. I anticipate being stuck with the near current version of Photoshop I have now. An update never occurs, but thats okay. Ive got windows update disconfigured and blocked, too.

Ive found that originally, updates actually fixed problems, but it seems for the last few years, updates only benefit the company and not the user. They are either trying to reinvent the wheel, increase data mining, restricting access in the name of better services, to gear up towards changing to some bullshit form of a subscription service (again, to provide you better services! Better for them...)

And, sometimes, updates just straight up break things. I've soured to allowing any updates when things are already working smoothly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Only problem is that by disabling all windows updates, you don't even get security updates, which on windows, is more critical than anywhere else, from where I am sitting

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Inkscape is far inferior to illustrator, has stability issues, support for filetypes is limited, copy pasting to other software non existant.

Scribus is just awful dogshit.

Gimp is a graphic software that is hostile to UX, not to mention has stability issues, is slow and in every category inferior to photoshop.

Blender is fucking amazing but 3d graphics is not really the same kind of software as the rest. Different type of users use it that have a very different set of skills and needs. And with all video software.

Beyond all of this, even if we ignore all of that, almost all graphic designers use Adobe, companies use Adobe, if you are sending files back and forth, the files have to be Adobe files either for collaboration or for text amendments... If you are a freelancer and work for any company, they will want Adobe files from you (I'm sure there is an exception somewhere).

None of this is threatened. If companies don't care, Adobe will go with it. Nobody will switch. Especially because there isn't really anything to switch to. Not realistically.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Confidentiality agreements REALLY mater to big companies. Once they're made aware that Adobe does this they'll either kick up a fuss so Adobe won't do it to them or switch programs. We've already seen people break Ai in plenty of ways, I wouldn't out it past people to figure out how to break the Adobe one to show original artwork for confidential projects at some point. We'll see how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, big companies might care, depending on how they see this as a security issue. If they don't, then it's doesn't matter. It's all up to them.

I don't think it would be possible to show original artwork. Highly unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's what people said about original prompts for text Ai bots but we've been able to get some from a couple popular ones.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

The doomerism is ridiculous here lol

You can switch to another program, and learn it, instead of making up a thousand reasons why you want your work to be scraped by Adobe and their scammer CEO

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected]

See also this great curated list of #FOSS creative tools collected by @ADHDefy

https://delightful.club/delightful-creative-tools

If you have more such fine projects, then create an issue or PR. The link to the repository is at the top of the delightful page.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In all fairness, Adobe has posted a clarification: https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/07/adobe-terms-clarified/
Do what thou wilst with it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Thank God .... I've been on Gimp and Scribus for the past 15 years, mainly because I could never afford Adobe products for the little bit of work I needed them for.

I was open source a long time ago because I just couldn't afford paying for stuff for the little time I needed software. Now I'm happy to be fully open source and even contribute with donations to the projects I like the most. I donate annually now to projects like Wikipedia, Libreoffice, Scribus and Fediverse developers and projects.

This is one criticism I'll always have with open source supporters ... if you want open source alternatives, contribute with donations to them. Give anything you can afford ... $1, $2, $10 ... because they need money to survive and stay engaged and committed to their project.

If we all just stand aside and take advantage of free open software and not give anything, then we are no better than the corporations we were trying to avoid. Instead of corporations taking advantage of us, we are taking advantage of developers.

So if you want these open projects to live and survive, contribute to them with whatever you got. If we all just gave a dollar each to these projects, no matter what they are, the developers would have more than enough to maintain their work.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] Bro, even YOU guys are suggesting GIMP, meanwhile most people try to use Krita as an image editor cuz of the UI and other issues i can't fully understand.

Is like using a Lawnmower to cut wood.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying gimp sucks or krita sucks?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@TrickDacy I'm saying that people are using the WRONG TOOL for the job, none of those program suck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I have never used krita. What are these tools right for? My understanding is they are both image editors so I would've assumed them pretty similar outside of UI differences

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

If you are a creative freelancer and have any confidentiality agreement with your clients, then it is now impossible to use Adobe without violating those agreements.

And there is massive liability if you mess it up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Don't forget Darktable to fill-in for Lightroom!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Nothing to replace Audition? Y'all should strategerifically partnershippify with QTractor

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I was using Krita for almost everything anyway already. The only thing I still need Photoshop for is in the very rare times I need to add curved text to an image. And for that I have a Jack Sparrow edition of Photoshop that runs in a virtual machine that isn't allowed to connect to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Im glad open source creative software is so good now, i havent cared about adobe in ages

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Right, I'm not a creative professional but the occasions I need tools adobe provides there are plenty of open source alternatives I use instead.

Sadly most people won't care about what adobe is doing, but I can only hope they continue to shoot themselves in the foot. I yearn for the day when they aren't the dominant player in the space, maybe in 15 years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

If this post is true a lot more of the people who matter should be caring once they become aware and if they don't them the people who need confidentiality should. We'll see how the cards fall.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] This post reads funnier with the implication that it's a threat from KDE.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] well it appears as though #youtube has now become a "gated community" the #YT frontends are not working. It prompts a login to prove you're not a bot:(

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

YouTube would be smart enough not to advertise Adobe creative cloud in the pre-roll ads of this video, right? Right???

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A link to what happened would be useful

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

God damn Adobe... we know you are bad but not THAT bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Locked a bunch of the production industry/creatives/graphic artists/etc. completely out of creative cloud and all of its apps until they signed a new TOS. They gave no heads up about it and basically it lets them use all your media however they want, super invasive stuff.

Two months ago I convinced my company to switch over to Da Vinci resolve and I am never going back. It is objectively the better tool in every regard for video editing. The only thing I will miss from Adobe is their audio enhance tool, but we will survive lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good job. I already switched to Affinity for photo editing & design because they don't have a subscription model, though they've been bought by a company that plans to introduce the subscription model.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They updated their TOS to say they can access and review anything you create on their products: https://80.lv/articles/people-aren-t-happy-with-adobe-s-spyware-like-terms-of-service-update/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

And the product director is openly lying about it:

We are not accessing or reading Substance users’s projects in any way, shape or form nor are we planning to or have any means to do it in the first place.

It's either that, or their lawyers decided to put that in without asking him? There needs to be some serious legislation for when companies try to pull this off

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

access and review

and censor and re-use and use to train their AI... Basically they own your art.

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