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Vaccines don’t cause autism, but the lie won’t die. In fact, it’s getting worse. (arstechnica.com)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

We run into a few interesting possibilities here. Start with the assumption that more children are being diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum. That gives us a few possibilities.

Because there's more and better screening autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is being caught more often. Okay, maybe. But.

1.a) If more children are being appropriately diagnosed with ASD, then perhaps the criteria needs to be tightened up; at a certain point, behavior/feelings/thoughts are just normal.

Because there's more screening--but not necessarily better screening--children are being pathologized as having ASD when they do not, because too many clinicians don't have the necessary expertise. This is a distinct possibility, in much the same way that kids are being labelled as having ADD/ADHD--and then getting drugs--when they're more frequently just being kids.
More children are actually on the autism spectrum now than there were 30 years ago. E.g., it's not that more kids slipped through the cracks 30 years ago, but there is actually a higher rate of ASD than there was 30 years ago. This is the one that should cause the most concern; if this is actually the case, and can be demonstrated to be the case, then what factor is causing this maladaption?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)

1)a) you missed the part where you clearly said "spectrum" before.

maybe instead, you/we need to change how we react to parts of the spectrum. That is a) it isn't "normal" and b) that's okay.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago (22 children)

Lol jokes on you. I already have autism. So, vaccines just make me stronger.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All the information available to us now and yet all people care about is if someone the Internet likes them.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The autism fear stems from the historical use of Thiomersal as a preservative.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

The autism fear stems from a grifter doctor.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

That was one of the original proposed mechanisms to explain how the (obviously false) autism was caused.

But since then, since thiomersal was removed, other 'causes' and moral issues have been invented, including cells from abortions.

The one that makes me laugh the most is that it's terrible that the poor poor baby is exposed to so many illnesses (measles, mumps, rubella, polio, tetanus, notovirus, rotovirus and more) in such a short space of time, it's no wonder the poor dear's immune system is compromised. And then the same mother drops the kid off at daycare and exposes the poor dear to all those viruses and more - and live viruses at that.

There is no bleeding logic, just feels. And they get so angry at the fake harm that medicine is causing, and simultaneously actually causing real harms to real people.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

the autism fear stems from one quack asshole intentionally skewing data for profit, then granola hippy moms holding him up as some bastion of truth, Which then evolved into right wing idiocy of medicine bad (until they are sick and think it could help them (which by then its probably too late) )

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

And yet he tried really hard to make people believe it was just the one vaccine causing autism, so he could sell his other, worse, replacement vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Hey hey hey!

Don't be dragging granola into this fuckwit-ocracy. It's a perfectly reasonable low effort breakfast for those of us that are unable to cook for ourselves because we can't find our arses with both hands for the first hour of semi-consciousness in the morning.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I sure hope I can get some autism for the bird flu.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just give the option to be injected with a vaccine or with chlorine. Watch the numbers drop spectacularly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I would choose the vaccine.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (10 children)

So, the universe is like a video game but the lesson is morality. Long story short, i have met the antivaxers and i understand. They are dishonest people. I dated their daughter. They will not listen because they're arrogant. They will face horrors until they learn their lesson. The point is, this is a morality problem, not an education problem. Nothing will save them but their own misery you're honestly trying to prevent.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Can I have the smart autism please

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Aspergers is still a stony route.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Sure, make sure to go back in time so that you aren't overestimulated in your environment, don't get bullied until you suffer an anxiety disorder, and have someone inspire interest in you for something capitalist society pays well for.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Only if you're smart anyway since autistic people have the whole distribution of capability represented. Then being smart isn't enough. You also have to be resilient, lucky, and privileged (not enough systemic factors outside of systemic ableism to wash you out in a psychological and logistical pincer attack), and also lucky again to get past the many societal filters that block most autistic success and create the illusion of some unicorn like uniqueness in all visible versions of autistic success.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

yes come to my house

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