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Gina Carano suing Disney and Lucasfilm over Mandalorian firing with help from Elon Musk (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

Just a reminder that anyone can sue anyone for any reason, it's just a question of how long it takes for it to get thrown out.

I could sue you for defamation, despite neither a conspicuous lack of any contact or reason for it, and as long as I get that news to the Media before a Judge tells me to fuck off and my lawyer gets censured into dust, the headline would still say I was suing you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Nutjob nutjobs with nutjob.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is there a name for giving people a platform by attempting to cancel them?

Just how many people did firing her prevent her from reaching? I for one follow everything star wars but would never have seen her tweets if not for this drama.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Martyrdom

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

She cancelled herself by playing alt-right culture warrior games. In the real adult world, you have to do what your boss and contract say or else you get fired.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

attempting to cancel them?

Just how many people did firing her prevent her from reaching?

Disney doesn't want to 'cancel' her, they just don't want to be associated with her.
They don't care whom she reaches as long as people don't think they endorse her views.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

If only the goal was to kill misinformation. No, I mean, the goal was to protect Disney's reputation. "Cancelation" is capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Elon still twittering away his fortune.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Disney obviously did not run their message announcing Carano's dismissal through HR, and it will cost them. Carano probably has a good case for defamation because of the way she was dismissed. This was very careless on Disney's part and has left them open to retaliation. They could have simply announced the departure and left it at that. Future employers should take note that if you dismiss someone, say as little about it as possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

That's true for small businesses and businesses that don't buy ink (and lawyers) by the tanker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Not a Lawyer and definitely someone that would love to see Disney get bent over the legal barrel and financial bitch slapped... But Carano has no case and nothing to gain here except publicity with right leaning organizations. Disney gave her numerous chances to walk her comments back and try to educate her to what she did wrong. She refused each time. Disney then terminated her employment and made a standard PR announcement as to why they made the decision they did, something fairly common in the industry.

Defamation would require Disney made untrue comments or statements about her, and her to prove those statements were false or misleading. Since this all happened over public social media, there isn't any evidence Disney did anything but state facts and amicably as they could inform the public why she would not reprise the character in the future. If there is any comments that would qualify as defamatory Im not aware of any of them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Defamation means what they said about her is not true. Did Disney say anything that was untrue?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

When are these people going to learn that you never fuck with The Mouse.

[–] [email protected] 156 points 7 months ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago

"Let them fight!"

MechaMouse vs. Qzilla

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Part of me really wants to hate watch that anti woke action movie she promised everyone at the time.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hate speech or fascist speech has to be repressed. There should be legal recourse but we are seeing now how the unfiltered and amplifying of profitable "polarizing" messages help fascism spread. It's almost too late.

PS: But maybe they could bring her back as a storm trooper?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

*Your support of storm troopers has been noted and your account has been shadow banned to repress the pro-fascist commentary.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The suit details that Carano was required by Disney to meet with a representative from the LGBTQ+ group Glaad after online behaviour that was seen as anti-trans, yet she refused. She was then asked to meet with a group of LGBTQ+ Disney employees but again refused and was fired soon after.

Interesting - I'd have thought someone who clearly has a history of using steroids would be more empathetic to those who's gender doesn't match their outward appearance

[–] [email protected] 58 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what part about this story I hate more; she was good in the role and entertaining but refused to even even meet with LGBT individuals.

Or the fact that the mouse was entirely justified in their actions here after giving her two very easy outs to save her job. If the mouse looks good next to you during a conflict, you definitely fucked up.

Also stinkrat needs to.go to Mars already and either have his rocket explode or get run over by a smart far.

[+] [email protected] -77 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I'm not about to be lectured by a bunch SJW activists, even if I generally agree with them. I can't blame her there, it sounds unbearable.

But she knew what the deal was when she skipped those meetings, and you can't come back with a law suit saying you were unfairly fired. She chose to not play the game, but still wants the disney paychecks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Who's lecturing you? You just chimed in.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I don't know what you're expecting to accomplish here. She spouted hateful things about a group of marginalized people, told that as a public figure she was not allowed to do that while on Disney payroll, and given an opportunity to save her job. She was being asked to sit down in a private meeting with individuals who identify as LBGT, not being forced to do PR work like hosting a fundraiser or having alterations to her contract obligating her to do screen work that she wasn't interested in.

I would get fired from my job for making social media posts like she did, and there is absolutely no way my employers would be willing to say everything was forgiven if I just sat down in a meeting or had lunch with a handful of people I had indirectly insulted. She wasn't being treated unfairly or being made to change her position on a subject publicly, she was being asked to stop spreading hate speech.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Ah, "SJW", "CRT", "Woke" etc. - words that right wing opinion manipulation campaigns load with anything unpopular amongst their base so they can unite in hate against the "other" group, even if no two people agree on who belongs in it and why.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Wow, what an arcane trixster you are

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

mate if you don't want to be told what to do dont be a fucking actor. That's literally the entire job.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hard downvote because calling people sjw betrays the fact that you don't understand that people just wants to live and let live.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Typically that's not what it is at all, but that is how the fashy media paints it.

The purpose of those kinds of meetings, is for shitty people to be placed faced to face with one or more LGBT persons (or in other situations a black person, or a Muslim or whatnot). And maybe, just maybe, the shitty person can learn, than e.g. someone gay or trans; while slightly different, largely they are just people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it was either get lectured by the people you have been disparaging or get fired. If I had to go to a meeting because I didn't realize something I said was hurtful, I'd just be happy to still have a job.

The problem was treating her like she's not just hateful.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

The problem was treating her like she's not just hateful.

They gave her the choice to play the game and pretend she's not hateful, or just be hateful. She chose the latter.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can that guy please get out of every fucking news story in the world? He's like a poisoned drop of ink in a glass of water that spreads and spreads until the whole fucking glass is filled black with poison. Except the glass of water is actually the entire zeitgeist.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Yeah. But too many billionaires do the same, they just manage to be invisible or have a better image crafted. They are the new lords and ladies of our civilization with incredibly, unaccountable and undemocratic power.

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