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Hi all,

Quiblr now has personalized post feeds for Lemmy!

I haven't seen a "recommended feed" feature anywhere else in the fediverse but I thought I would take a crack at building it!

My goal was to make a privacy-focused recommendation engine that tailors your experience based on the content you interact with. None of the data leaves your device. You don't even need to log in for it to work

  • You can turn it off or tune your feed in the settings
  • Each post now also includes a show me more/less button

I would LOVE feedback from folks if you get a chance to try it out!

This was really fun to build so let me know if there are any questions!

PS: Let me know if someone else has built this feature for the fediverse - then I will change the title to not claim "the first" lol

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

This makes me think of Fediverse client SoraSns. It used on-device ML and has algorithmic choice. It’s awesome that everything is done on-device

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Wow, this looks cool and useful, but since it's the first time I know about Quiblr I have to ask, what is it? I feel like it's a frontend to any lemmy instance? This fediverse world is cool but the many layers of this onion confuse me a little. I like the look and feel of the site! I think this feature of "For You" would be useful to other federated projects. In "reddit-like" projects I don't see much use because my feed on that app was from things I followed, but in things like peertube or youtube alternatives, a "recommended" page is a thing that I miss! It could be awesome if this feature could be implemented in other federated projects.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hi, Im glad you like Quiblr! It is a frontend. It currently supports Lemmy Instances. So you can use Quiblr and browse/join any other Lemmy instance. Basically, it is the equivalent of a Reddit client

And I agree that the recommendation algorithm perhaps has a more ideal fit with other content. But I liked the idea of something new and novel by mixing Lemmy's Reddit-style with a Youtube/Instagram-style recommendation feed.

Let me know if any other questions or feedback come up!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

that's cool!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

🚩 Anti-libre software bans us from proving it's claims. This is worse, service as a software substitute.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@Aurelius does #quiblr project have a dedicated matrix room?

@fediverse

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It does not. I haven't used matrix yet. What are matrix rooms used for?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Are like Discord federated.
Matrix can be used also in place of Telegram/Whatsapp.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Little feedback on the UI from taking a peek at this.

When I went into settings and adjusted post display style from card to anything else, it wasn't clear to me that this wouldn't apply to the new For You feed, which left me confused and less inclined to use it. I still gave it a try to make sure I wasn't missing anything and to see how much the feed seemed to change with some light interaction, but I think you'd need to use it more than I did to see an effect.

Problem being: display settings not applying to the For You feed means I'm not going to use it much with the default card view.

Second part is that there was some comment display lag as I looked through posts, so if I looked at a post about cats with cat-related comments, those comments would linger and appear for a moment under a different post about possums. It's just long enough to be noticeable, so thought it worth mentioning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Valid. I finished the functionality of the For You feed and wanted to share before wrapping up all the formatting styles for the posts. Should be fixed here in a few hours.

Also, I'll see if there is a better way to dynamically load comments. Thanks for the feedback!

Edit: Other post formats are now available on the For You feed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Appreciate the adjustments and responsiveness! Gave it another try after this and the different formatting hit the spot! Still need to use more to see more finely tuned results, but dig the idea.

Also as others have already said plenty, would be cool to see this cleaned up for an open source release. If you'd like to see how some others are handling a sorta similar idea but with RSS feeds, you might look to Nunti for ideas on how to approach it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I’ll check it out!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That does actually look interesting and might revolutionize parts of the Fediverse, ngl. Is it open-source?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just gave Quiblr an open source update. You can find GitHub can be found here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just saw it, amazing, keep up the great work!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I appreciate the support and kind words!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Not the op but not now by the sound of it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Is this foss if so where ia source code. Second does this need to be its own ui or could it be modified to work as a proxy between a 3rd party client and a lemmy instance? Otherwise how hard would it be to implement into eternity?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused. You don't have to log in at all? So if I post a comment, how does that work?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

The recommendation engine doesn’t require users to log in. You would still need to log in to vote, post, comment, etc

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is it opwn source? Would love to see it on mastodon and other apps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Sorry for the delayed response. Quiblr is open source. Github here

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

opwn source

I'm stealing this term.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It would be best not to direct users to sign up at lemmy.world by default. There's nothing wrong with lemmy.world, it's just that I feel it'd be better if users spread out more rather than only amassing in the larger instances.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

I used lemmy.world as the default for non-technical users or for folks who can’t decide. Users can still select different instances. Maybe it could make sense to default sign ups to a list of popular instances

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would LOVE feedback from folks if you get a chance to try it out!

I have feedback completely unrelated to the recommendation engine: please consider using CSS prefers-color-scheme instead of defaulting to light mode.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Notes! I’ll aim to add it to the next release. Thanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where can I submit a bug report? Liking the app so far, great work!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I appreciate it! And there is a Feedback form in the sidebar

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What a super cool idea, and I love the implementation! I do however keep accidentally downvoting, when I want to upvote, and vice versa, since all other sites that I've ever used, display the upvote first, and the downvote second. Any chance of a toggle for that in settings?

A must-have feature for me is the ability to collapse comments on posts. Right now it seems like we can only collapse replies to comments, or put differently, we can only collapse child-comments. Any chance you could make it possible to collapse parent comments too?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just a quick follow up here - I added a simple toggle setting to Quiblr that lets you flip the arrow order.

Apologies for the slow roll out, I had a big laundry list of updates in this latest release!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I appreciate you following up! I can just imagine how much you had to get through. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's my pleasure! Enjoy!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you so much! And I just made a note on the voting arrow order. I like the idea of making that an option in settings

And I can look into collapsing parent comments too. As you pointed out, I made it so just child comments collapse. The idea to collapse the parent comment never occurred to me lol

I'll see if I can work both of these features into the next release.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

You're an absolute champ! Wishing you all the best with this project going forward, and I look forward to using it more :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Nice UI work. I'll wait for it to be open-sourced before I use it to login to my account.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Without it being open source and not providing reproducible builds, the privacy claims are borderline weightless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

even if it's open source, how would you verify that the instance is running that version of the software?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Fair point. I believe I was under the impression that this was an app rather than a served webpage. I suppose one can easily verify this by looking at how the "For You" algorithm works within the browser ­— all the code for functionality would be sent to the browser; though, it could potentially be obfuscated, which might be a pain.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Agree, but anyone competent could just sniff the traffic. (Or hopefully, lack thereof)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

For sure. What the aforementioned bits of information provide is the ability to be confident in the privacy of software if one were to treat it as a black box, ie an average consumer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This. For all we know, the app could be doing all kinds of nefarious things and we wouldn't be able to tell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Hm, I feel that it's inaccurate to say "we wouldn't be able to tell". It's not exactly a black box system — the app would have to run on an operating system, and if you are able to know what the operating system is doing, and what instructions are being executed by the CPU, then you can know exactly what the app is doing.

What the aforementioned bits of information provide is the ability to treat software as a black box and be sure of its safety without having to fundamentally audit it.

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