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Tons of great suggestions already shared, but I’d like to add one I haven’t seen yet.

Wilderness Survival / Bushcraft School

They exist in nearly every corner of the world. There will be tons to learn from instructors and other students alike, since that sort of program tends to attract other outdoor enthusiasts who may already have experience with basic camping and backpacking.

Many will offer overnight programs where you camp out in a safe environment while practicing skills that can save your life if things go really wrong, not to mention that they’re fundamentally rewarding.

National parks are awesome

I'll echo the most given tip: start slow, with only an overnight at a place near you.

If you want a "longer" trip, you could also consider going to a campsite where they have all the commodities like water and showers, setup your tent there and do day hikes from that place. You'll get a feel of what you need for food and cooking, but still have the safety and commodities of a public campsite at your disposal.

youtube rabbithole and gear: Don't get dragged down in the youtube rabbithole and all its gear recommendations. Gear is really, REALLY personal. Before you know it, you'll spend hundreds of pounds on gear. Although you could view reviews of what you're looking for, most "top 10 things you need when backpacking" are just ads for specific brands and/or very much a personal preference. Accept that you will buy gear you dislike in actual use. And that (if you find out you like backpacking) you can gather your gear over the years to suit your need. You'll learn more from 1 actual backpacktrip than 40 hours of Youtube.

Don't buy everything all at once, it will most likely be a waste of money. The stuff you have lying around will be heavier than "backpackgear" but will be more than sufficient to see if you like backpacking at all. You'll find out what type of camping/backpacking you actually like and can buy gear accordingly:

• You like hiking but not setting up all the stuff? You won't need sleeping gear as you'll go from lodge to lodge/hostel to hostel
• you like having one base camp where you'll hike from? You'll buy heavier, more durable luxury gear.
• you like walking many miles and only have the minimal gear to sleep and eat? You'll be buying lightweight gear that is super light.
• you're a combination of any of the above? The gear will be a combination of the above.

There are so many ways of backpacking and camping. That is where Youtube will not help you. It is so important not to impose any arbitrary rules on how you should backpack/camp yourself until you actually know what aspect of it is important to you or what you enjoy most.

One more thing about buying gear(which again, I would try to minimize buying anything for a first trip) You'll (almost) always have a tradeoff between 3 attributes: Weight, Durabilty and Price

1. Gear is durable and cheap, but heavier.
2. Gear is lightweight and cheap but less durable
3. Gear is lightweight and durable, but expensive.

Then, 2 rules for what gear to bring:

1. You need less than you think.
2. Always, ALWAYS test your gear at home if you've bought something. Have a tent? Set it up. Have a stove? Try it out. You don't want to be out and about without a clue and a guide to setup and use your stuff.

food: Check your local supermarket for products that can be easily prepared without needing cooling. Some types of bread have long expiry dates and are excellent for backpacking trips. Nuts and energy bars can be great too for snacks. Something like an apple is a great snack too. Try to see what you normally eat, and see if there is anything that would be practical to take with you on a trip without needing a fridge.

If you have a stove with you on your backpacking trip, special dried backpacking meals are lightweight, easy to make and (can be) tasty without being too expensive.

Part of the hobby is the journey itself. So give yourself the time to find what you like, what you need, and how get the most reward/enjoyment out of the hobby.

When I was living in the UK (Darlo and Swindon) there were some really good wild camping groups. They are happy for new people to join then and will do walks and camping trips (all the way through to multi night). Find a group of people and chat

Get pack fit by doing day walks with all your gear etc (and don't over pack or under pack)

Read a good book on the subject (or two). In my experience that's way better information and more comprehensive than gathering info on the internet.

And I'd agree, start small. Practice first and raise the bar as you learn.

With the equipment, that's indeed a bit difficult. You'd need to learn the specifics and how to decide, or ask someone in the shop and hope they tell you the truth, or join a group or have friends who can help. You can buy cheap stuff and learn with that. But you're bound to buy things twice that way. But the more professional equipment is all specialized stuff. You'd have a different sleeping bag depending on season plus extras like if it needs to repell water and what makes you comfortable. And there are a lot of tents. Some are lightweight so you can carry them on your backpack, some are larger and you can sit inside and cook during a rainstorm, some can withstand storm and lots of rain. Lots of requirements are mutually exclusive. And it can get really expensive anyways, so you have to decide. And with backpacks: I'd go to a store and try a few, it needs to be large enough to fit your stuff but it also needs to fit you.

About water supplies etc you can read in a book. And you should have a try with a cooker and food at home (probably outside). It's easy to forget salt/margarine/a spatula or a suitable bowl for soup if it's your first try. Or misjudge how much fuel to carry for the cooker. Or what kind of (dry) food is lightweight, tasty and fills your stomach after a tiring day in the woods. I mean you should test your equipment anyways, maybe for a weekend first, maybe in proximity of your home or on a camp site. And see what's missing before walking into the wilderness.

And you should also read about how to care for the environment, what kind of soap and toothpaste to use, how to poop...

Also don't buy too much unnecessary stuff. I'd say it's not always obvious what kind of equipment is super handy and which is just dead weight. And not everyone needs the super expensive tent or cooker that can burn almost everything...

Start slow. Car camping. (Drive in sights. Pitch a tent. Bring a cooler.) and the. Slowly remove the amenities while working on your skills.

The. Go up to walk-in sites. And slowly start walking in further from the car.

Always - always - let someone know where you’re going and how long you’ll be. I don’t think there’s anywhere in the UK that would be obscenely dangerous to go alone- as long as you use good judgement and don’t try to push beyond your abilities.

That said, having a camping buddy is definitely safer. If there’s people around, meh. Not as important. If you’re the only soul around… you twist your ankle you might get dead when that storm comes up and you can’t make it out and they can’t find you.

Using well-used trails to develop skills is a great way to learn. Map and compass as well as orienteering courses are helpful for navigation… just getting out is helpful. Having the car there so you can bug out (or hide out,) adds safety, while learning limits.

I'm not seeing the most basic bit of advice in my brief perusal, but even so it needs repeating: find a camping buddy. That is by far the easiest way to get into camping. And honestly you shouldn't be going out on your own as a novice anyway.

Ask the people you know, or the people THEY know. If that doesn't work then try local camping groups near you. Lots of people are looking for others to go camping with, so you're a commodity! Get together with them before your first trip to go over packing lists and menus, and maybe even go grocery shopping together before hand. I really didn't recommend going out there in your own, buying everything you need, etc etc. Start with someone else, see if you're into it, and next steps will be obvious. You were born to live out there, it comes pretty naturally no matter how many thousands of years your people have been in the city--you were out there much much longer!

I’d add a few more suggestions to the other excellent ones provided:

First, start with a few day trips. Go somewhere you can walk into, have a lunch, and walk out. First time you do it, the only things you need are serviceable shoes, layered clothing, a backpack to carry your lunch (and any layers you take off) and some water, and a survival kit (just in case things don’t go as expected).

What’s in a survival kit?

What I pack in mine is:

• A pen and paper
• A candle and a lighter
• A signal mirror (shiny surface with a hole in the middle)
• An emergency thermal blanket (comes folded up about the size of your hand, shiny metal/plastic thing
• A basic first aid kit (the really small ones)
• A pocket knife with a saw blade
• iodine tablets (that haven’t expired)
• a phone

That kit should all fit inside the first aid kit, and the first aid kit should be small enough to clip on your belt or go in a standard backpack.

So after you’ve gone on a few daytrips, you’ll want to get overnight equipment, which adds a few things: a tent, a sleeping mat, a properly rated sleeping bag (err on colder ratings, just in case), a cookstove of some sort and a proper pair of hiking boots.

If you can, test the tent out in-store before you buy it to make sure it’s the right size for you. Next, set it up when you get home a few times, to make sure you understand how it works and there are no surprises. If you’ve got a back yard, set it up there overnight and sleep in it with your sleeping mat and bag. Do this on a dry night, but then do it on a rainy night as well. Figure out how to use the fly and ground sheet so you don’t get water coming in. Also figure out where you’ll put your wet and dirty pack if you have to set up camp in the rain.

Next step is to pack for an overnight with all your existing gear and do the day trip you did above with full kit. This will help you figure out if anything needs to be adjusted, and to sort out the best way to pack everything. Do this once in dodgy weather, and you’ll get another perspective on how your gear works.

Finally, you’re ready for a basic overnight. By this point you should be very familiar with all your equipment, how much weight you’re comfortable carrying, and how to set up and take down camp.

Last word of advice is: always go with someone else, and always leave behind an itinerary so others know where you plan to be. This is of significant help to search and rescue workers should you end up getting lost or injured.

I go backpacking regularly. Feel free to DM me with any questions. I have done both bushwhacking and week long canoe/backpacking trips. I wouldn't say I'm an expert but I haven't died yet, so I got that going for me.

Just take the bare minimum and spend a night near your car or home, someone you can up and leave at 2am if you need to. Take a shit before you go.

There’s not really any surprises for what you need, just take a tent, sleeping bag, warm enough clothes, a little toilet paper, water and food (just take loads of cereal bars and stuff you don’t need to cook for the first time). The only other thing to take is bin bags so you can clean up any mess you make. You should leave the place you camp as if you were never there. No food on the ground, nothing. Don’t feed the animals.

If you’re feeling extravagant you can take some baby wipes and toothpaste/toothbrush for cleaning but don’t stress yourself on the first time. If you have a garden you can even camp in your garden for the first time just to get a feel for it.

Start small.

Try a few overnights and test your limits. Figure out what you enjoy and what you don't like. Some people really get into cooking over an open fire, and others would rather bring packaged food. Some people want to hike for miles with a heavy pack, and others would rather set up close to the trailhead.

I highly recommend the book The Lost Art of Reading Nature's Signs by Tristan Gooley. It's far more applicable for the roaming in nature possibilities in the UK than where I am in the US.

I think you are talking about wilderness backpacking, as opposed to regular backpacking.

Backpacking means you are generally on trails and bringing everything you need, including food. You don't need survival skills to backpack, but some basic ability to navigate with a map and compass is really good to know.

Wilderness backpacking is like regular backpacking but is more survivalist and you generally don't use established trails. This is more hardcore and can include having to get food while you are in the wilderness by fishing or hunting.

Start off hiking.

Gear is a big topic of debate. Understand whatever you buy will probably not be what you will need and you will probably replace or upgrade gear a lot as you find out. I don't think anything I have in my pack now was with me for my first trip.

Bivy vs tent vs hammock comes down to what suits you and the environment you are going to, can't hang a hammock if there aren't enough trees.

Alcohol stove vs fuel stove vs cooking over fire all depends on your convenience desire and if there are fire restrictions. Hell, you can even go no-cook meals if you are indifferent to the comfort a hot meal on a cold day can bring.

Passive vs manual water filtration is a matter of personal preference. Water purification tabs are light as fuck, but the taste is not pleasant. If you have a good filtration system the source of the water need only be unpolluted, like a lake or stream. You can boil water, but that isn't a perfect system and there is still a lot of junk and flavors that you probably don't want. Pump filters are faster, but gravity filters require less energy and you can use them while on the move.

Shoes should be hiking shoes or boots, ones with ankle support can be really nice in topography where you will be changing elevations a lot.

Backpack should be an appropriately sized backpacking pack with a frame. You can go frameless if you are ultralight, but ultralight people are neurotic and derrainged. You want one that fits you and is big enough for the trip but not oversized.

Food is pretty personal. You really could only take highly perishable foods like unpreserved meat for a day if you are in temps above safe storage temps. So don't think you can take a steak for day 4 when it is 25C out. If it doesn't need refrigeration or is a preserved product, you can choose what you want. Some people will eat nothing but trail mix, some people will take nothing but dehydrated camping food, what you take will be up to you. If you are looking to cook whatever you want, then overlanding type camping or car camping is what you should be looking at.

Definitely understand that the temps that a sleeping bag are rated for are not accurate. Whatever the lowest temperature they say it is good for is almost barely survivable in reality. If A bag is rated for 7C, it probably is livable at 13C with layers on. Bags are case by case so you will have to try out a bag to know at what temperature you can comfortably sleep in them.

You should start with reading forums and communities to see what other people are doing. There are checklists you can reference to wrap your head around everything you might need and then you can figure out what you want. Definitely start with an overnight trip to work some kinks out of your setup and then go for more days as you gain confidence in your setup.

Congrats on turning your life around and getting into the outdoors.

A quick way to learn would be to find a friend who knows and go camp with them.

I think you should not try to acquire all the gear until you know what you will actually use (besides, you will be the one carrying it)

Things I would definitely bring:

-a hatchet

-container(s) to drink from and cook in

-lighters

-single burner propane stove

-tent

-sleeping bag

-tarp

-rope and/or ratchet straps

-water filter (MSR MiniWorks EX is my personal fave)

-garbage bag(s)

Based on what you described, I think you should just go for it with some basics for one night at a time, and you will quickly learn what you want to bring in the future.

Ppl are offering great advice about where to start, and it's what I'd suggest too - start with car camping to get a feel for it. If you overcommit too soon, you could ruin the experience for yourself. I know many ppl who will never camp again because they treated it like a hotel stay, got rained out, and decided it wasn't for them lol.

A couple of resource suggestions - you mention an interest in self sufficiency. Read the SAS Survival Guide by one of your own, John Wiseman. It's my go to for general survival tips and skills, including the ones I hope to never need. But lots of good info just to be aware of too.

Some other great resources can be books on flora and fauna. One I have sitting on my desk is the Canadian Outdoor Survival Guide. Obviously it's for Canada, but it teaches you edible plants and behaviour around some bigger beasties (I don't think that's an issue in the UK).

And a final thought - an old Parks Canada marketing slogan is a really good nature-respecting thing to keep in mind: Take only pictures, leave only footprints.

Nature is in our backyard, but it's home for the animals that live there.

Happy camping! ☺️

I have a small van with a bed and a sink in. I don't visit any campsites. I don't see this as "wild camping", but apparently it counts so I'll pitch in my advice anyway. I feel like we would have very similar interests - my holidays consist of going to Scotland for roughly a week, walking wherever seems nice, and generally being away from other people. I park overnight in lay-bys or carparks that allow camping. I started out sleeping in the back of my car for the first few years, but it's not as comfortable and I enjoyed myself enough that I decided to invest in a van.

The things I bring with me are

• bottled water (I have some 5L bottles that I fill from the tap, usually 30L is enough for drinking and hand washing for a week, with one "shower" from a bottle)
• books
• bedding
• camping stove and wok
• reusable plastic plates and forks
• clothing
• money (this is the most important, because if you forget anything else on the list you can buy it with money)
• map of where I'm going downloaded to my phone

I go shopping and find a toilet once a day. I drive to somewhere nice (just look at the map and take a guess). Sit and read,go for a walk wherever looks interesting, snack, sleep, repeat. In terms of food, it's mostly pastries and salad, because it's hard to find ready-to-eat vegetarian food. For cooking, I've found that stuffed pasta and readymade sauce is easy to cook, and the other go-to is vegetarian sausages in a bun. But generally I only eat one or two cooked meals per holiday. It's not worth the washing up IMO.

My experience is probably different than what you're planning, but similar enough to be useful advice I hope. You can literally start by just jumping in a car with some food and water, and driving somewhere nice. As long as you have a car, anyway. I'd suggest to start small and close to home, then it's an easy escape if anything goes wrong

Check out the YouTube channel Camping with Steve. Each episode is an overnight camping trip in various settings, either in the wilderness, or abandoned places, even stealth camping in a roundabout once. The guy has a good energy about him and you'll get a ton of tips on the practical side of camping.

If you have a vehicle, consider car camping. Some of the YouTube I have been watching are “Cheap RV living” and “SUV RVing”. Both of these channels show how little you really need to live in a car.

Something to keep warm, something to cook, somewhere to poop. Lots of people get a little battery bank to keep their phone or laptop charged. Try not to use your vehicle power when parked but you can charge everything while driving. I have been watching a ton of that camping channels because my wife and I are about to live in our car for a while and find where we will move to. We spent the last year gathering everything we think we need for the trip using these videos. People live in cars as small as a Prius (which has climate control when the car is off). We have a slightly bigger car, but I think we can do it after seeing so many people living in cars.

Think about it like this: you don't have to go to the Australian outback and survive there for a week with nobody being around.

Start with a one day hike so that you can pack and carry enough gear that will ensure you can spend the night and figure it out from there. Take a note of stuff that you missed and add it to the list of items you'll research and buy. Drop stuff you didn't need after a while (emergency supplies exempted).

You'll probably need clothes, a tent, a sleeping bag and mat, a flashlight, a stove & fuel, lighter, plus kitchen utensils / cutlery, water bottles, food, toiletries, toothbrush, a towel, first-aid kit, some insect repellant, sunglasses, your phone (solar charger), some money or credit card, and potentially maps and a compass if you're planning a longer hike and there might not be any reception (or you lost your phone). There are apps (e. g. Locus) that have dedicated "outdoor" map types and allow map downloads, so they work offline and provide more useful information about the terrain.

Look at camping / hiking communities where people post their minimal loadout pictures to get an idea of how little gear really is needed to get around and add stuff you'd like for comfort from there. There is a whole "ultralight" movement out there that will give you an idea of the absolute basics you'll need, people typically post overhead pictures of their gear there and add descriptions.

Regarding your specific question for drinking water: there are solutions to filter water so it can be safely consumed, search for "portable water treatment", e. g. LifeStraw, Geopress etc., plus chemical additives that purify water.

Yes, you can make bacon&eggs, you'd typically crack the eggs at home and seal them in a bag to carry them along. A camping stove will allow you to fry food and boil water, plus you can always start a fire (where legal!).

Sleeping bags will be rated for certain temperatures, get one that matches the climate you plan to sleep in, then optimize for weight and cost - we can't tell you how to weigh each factor since that depends on destination, group setup (load distribution) and naturally, your financial situation.

If you want to get more serious about being self sufficient, you might want to look into "bushcraft" later on, although I do consider this an advanced topic separate from camping / hiking, and it won't work in every corner of the world. Still, there are decent books about it and the topic is interesting either way. A good starting point could be: https://www.amazon.com/Bushcraft-Boxed-Set-Advanced-Gathering/dp/1507206690/

Overall, don't overthink things and start with small, short trips, you'll learn as you go.

I am in the US so I don't know much about the UK specifically, but generally speaking I would think about starting small and working your way up.

For example, in the US there are many state or national parks that offer campsites where you could rent a basic cabin so you don't have to worry about a tent. Or you could get a site with a covered pavilion with tables and benches so you don't have to worry about seating or shade. Many have built in charcoal grills and fire pits. I would also recommend you start with somewhere that has access to plumbing and maybe even electricity for your first few go rounds.

There are also privately owned parks that cater to the "glamping" crowd where you can have access to a fancier cabin and other amenities like swimming pools, sports equipment, etc.

As far as camping equipment I would highly recommend you start off buying used gear. Good equipment can be pricey because it is meant to last, and you are not even sure if this is something you're going to stick with yet. Try out some used gear and see what you like and don't like about it. If you decide to stick with this you can always invest in better gear later. The basics should include a sleeping bag, tent, and maybe a propane stove. There are many things you probably already have or can make do with something. For example you don't need to go buy specialty camping cookware when you can just bring a pan and utensils from home. You don't need a backpack unless you plan to do some actual backpacking; a trunk or duffel bag is fine if you're driving into your site.

Anyway, hope this helps! Enjoy your journey!

Test your setup by camping in your backyard.

In the US we have KOA campgrounds which have a camp host and usually a store. I used them for my first RV trip and found it to be very helpful. Maybe you have something similar?

I don't have a resource to point you towards, but firstly decide how you're doing things. Are you hiking? Or are you hitting green lanes (BOATs and UCRs) in a 4x4? The first will make you need lightweight and smaller kit, the latter less so. Figure out what you're looking to do and buy accordingly.