No Bucks/Hens nights was one of my rules as a pub bouncer. It's always trouble. It's mostly a group of friends out for a piss up and extremely bad behaviour at the expense of other patrons enjoyment.
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The bylaws also prohibit going shirtless or in a bikini in areas away from the beach, a ban that was introduced several years ago in Barcelona to little effect as offenders are mainly tourists who fly home without paying the fines.
That's easy to solve. You confiscate the passport until the fine is paid. Or arrest them and hold them without bond as a flight risk. The last time I got a speeding ticket--about 15 years ago, I think--I was in Ohio, and driving home to Illinois. The cop took my license, and said they'd mail it back once I paid the fine.
Quick edit: I'm not talking about cash bail here; that's a separate issue. Bond can be refused when a suspect is deemed to be unlikely to show up for court, such as the suspect being a foreign national. This happens regularly, and isn't particularly controversial. A person that is a citizen and resident of a foreign country is very likely to skip out on criminal penalties, therefore they shouldn't be permitted to leave without paying their criminal fines.
In the US, the only way a government ID can be confiscated is if it's provably fake. This is akin to debtors prison, a practice that has been outlawed in much of the civilized world for good reason. I get the sentiment, but there are better ways to enforce.
100% false, because as I said I've had it happen to me. States can, and do, do this.
...what is even this word salad of a title?
In American, that's bachelor and bachelorette parties.
So is it a Stag Do and a Hen Do respectively?
Yup.
What is?
Stag and hen dos.
What's a hen do?
Bachelorette party.
Hen = female
Do = party
A stag do is the male equivalent. In the UK & Ireland the word "do" is used often for social gatherings or events. Like a "work do" means you're going out for drinks or whatever with colleagues from your workplace.
Mostly just walks around clucking and eating corn off the ground.
A devotee of Vishnu. /s
It’s what the English call a bachelorette party apparently.
Lay eggs, mostly.
It specifically says human genitals. 😏
Dresses up like a horse cock
Americans are so sensitive, unlike us enlightened europeans
Most of the food in the area of Spain I visited (South) was bad because it was made for British tourists. Had no idea it was going to be like that.
Gibraltar was cool despite being even more British.
Fuck, there goes my weekend.
a ban that was introduced several years ago in Barcelona to little effect as offenders are mainly tourists who fly home without paying the fines.
So you make them pay before leaving jail.
Debtor's prison is pretty much universally considered a violation of basic human rights. In the US there is even a strong contingent of legal scholars who feel that cash bail cannot be justified.
I apologize I don't have time now to find a source for that.
Make them pay when they enter the country and refund them when they leave
I got you
From [Wikipedia] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debtors'_prison) about debtors prison:
In 1963, members of the Council of Europe, an intergovernmental human rights organization based in Strasbourg, adopted the Protocol No. 4 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. Article 1 of the protocol states that "no one shall be deprived of his liberty merely on the ground of inability to fulfil a contractual obligation." Currently, 42 states have ratified the protocol.[74]
Article about cash bail reform
I'm not sure if either of these apply to international flight risks.
Maybe a better option would be to seize British passports and place offenders on a no fly list.
I'm not a legal expert, but this talks about "inability to fulfill a contractual obligation" rather than the refusal to do so.
I assume the problem is slightly different and it is mainly a problem of not being able to go after the money (perhaps at reasonable cost) if the travelers have it?
Or provide collateral. And chuck them on a wanted list for the EU. If they ever return, they get detained and have to pay and sent home.
I'm pretty sure dutch tourists will just get the fined forwarded to them through the CJIB (the Dutch fine collection authority). So fleeing the country does not help.
They don't do a "wanted list" for murderers, I don't think they're going to do that for some drunken tourist that was dressed like a penis
What you talking bout Willis?
Europol has wanted lists, and just recently dutch wanted goons where arrested in Spain. If anything there is more need to European cooperation on the apprehension of criminals and border control.. not less.
There are many cases where murderers were allowed to leave the country under the "pinky promise I will come back "
For example Rassoul Bissoultanov
The Spanish system is overburdened and someone is finally judged guilty after years and years. Meanwhile, if leave the country, good luck finding them again.
They can't manage for murders and robberies, adding block lists for petty crimes would only exacerbate the situation
Y'all we are talking inflatable dicks not murder
And we talking people skipping out on paying fines they deserve.
If it where up to me I'd allow the Guardian civil beat anyone in an inflated penis suit, untill the whole thing was flaccid and they could pour the occupant out through one of the airholes.. but that's just me.
Looking it up, the fine is UP TO €300 in Barcelona. They could say “pay now, get 50% off, pay later and pay the full 300”
Or vice versa.. now is 300 of we have to collect in the uk via a collection agency it will be 450.
I'll bet plenty of collection agencies will collect that for 100 euro
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