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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

The first sentences be true, then it drives off a whacky tangent, or what science calls "a cliff".

Never take away a person's beliefs about life. Whether you think they're true or not has nothing to do with it. They're their's, they mean a lot, and that's how they endure life. To take them away is to be no better than a missionary or JW dooknocker or Ackchyually Guy. If we all respected that rule from all sides, we'd have a lot less unnecessary hatred and death. The theistic, non theistic, and atheistic schools of thought all respect the values of not bringing harm to yourself and then secondly to not bring harm to others. We all share this before barreling down contradicting "ammendments" that no longer reflect the shared principles of humanity.

Edit: Fuck... I'm ranting. I stop now.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I had a teacher that taught both religion and chemistry. People who learned about that often made comments about it being weird. But he insisted that both topics are not exclusive to each other. It has been a long time since school but I think his reasoning (if that is the correct word) has been that one is philosophical and the other scientific which are separate worlds. You can't prove stuff in faith scientifically but neither has religion a place in the " real" world. And, to be completely honest, he was by far one of the best teachers I have ever had.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And I don't wanna talk to a scientist

Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

A motivatonal meme? Shit did i just mess up the timeline?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not that science and scientists set out to prove god doesn't exists. It's that the word of god as written down by men is contradicted directly and often by proven fact, and that belief in God is associated with a strong ignorance of reality.

People didn't live to 800. Goat blood doesn't protect you from plagues. The earth is not just 5 millennia old. Humans have not existed since the dawn of time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I remember someone asking what are good documentaries on evolution that doesn't say "this is why religion is BS". I cannot recall a time having watched a documentary on evolution that blatantly says that. Religion on the other hand...

Anyone with two thinking brain cells would already put two and two together and see the contradiction. When I first learned about evolution in school, I thought to myself that it contradicts what the Bible said, and my teacher and the book never even said anything explicitly. However, I somehow rationalised that god must have created beings first and evolution took course after. It is in my later formative years, through education and more reading, which made up my mind that religion overall is nonsense and the denial of reality.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You can have your faith, so long as you stop forcing it down other people's throats.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and don't insist that every part of the holy texts are literally 100% undiluted word of god, which generally makes religion way easier to integrate with a scientific worldview.

no, god did not create eve from adam's rib, that's just evocative storytelling initially written by people in the middle east 2000 years ago and repeatedly altered and translated since then.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins the movie by telling you how it ends. Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

To be fair, it's more like that annoying friend who babbles on and on about what they think is going to happen. They're never quite sure, and are always changing their mind as the movie keeps going.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

The proofs are already there. Science just tries to find them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

That's it. Checkmate, atheists, pack it up and go home, you've just been one-upped forever and ever by... this one McDonald's-eatin' megachurch-attendin' rando from Arkansas.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Everybody knows that one guy that always has to prove they’re right.

No Eric, I do not need to hear why the trump verdict was bullshit, especially when I directly ask what you disagree with about it and just get back they railroaded him and how stormy talked about all this sex shit, although I do not understand why that was admitted, but you have nothing to say about the actual evidence

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

If you believe in God and science empirically proved God didn't exist, would you still believe?

If you don't believe in God, and science empirically proved God exists, would you start to worship it?

I don't believe God exists. But if he was proven to exist, I would believe. I would not, however, worship him. Dude's a prick.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

it depends which god we ended up proving the existence of, if it's prometheus i'd join the movement to free him from his eternal punishment for gifting humanity the fire of innovation.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The bible should be considered a book of gossip, like an old hollywood rag and accorded such due respect

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

More like a fanfiction basically tumblr of that time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

God's existence, by definition, cannot be proven or disproven. That's the nature of faith and free will (in the theological sense). And that's why there are scientists who believe in God. This American idea that religion and science are opposites makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Effects on the natural world can be scienced.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Of course it can be proven to exist, as long as evidence of its existence exists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And what would be the evidence for God's existence? I don't think there'll ever be scientific evidence for God because all events can be explained by science as having occurred naturally, but what if the natural part is made by God?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If "God" is indistinguishable from the natural world, unable to be differentiated from it, to formulate or express thoughts or to influence existence in any way, it is a redundant idea, a zero to the left, and something so alienated from what the vast majority of people consider God is, that the meaning of the concept has already been twisted. It doesn't deserve epistemological effort, because our understanding of the world wouldn't change one bit: rather than it being a wilful intelligence, it would be a carcass over which we happen to live in, which the Universe already is. Even if you were to prove the existence of such a devoid concept, it would be equal to asserting "The Universe exists".

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I would hear his explanation first. The story is full of holes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

I mean, if Yahweh exists it's not that the story is full of holes so much as that he was part of the Canaanite pantheon and the stories were never originally meant to describe the actions of a singular god.

There is likely a whole mythological cycle that we simply do not have because it was destroyed by zealots for disproving their weird monotheistic fan fiction.

It's like trying to make sense of the Norse sagas if cultists merged all the other gods into Odin, including Loki.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Victim complex / projection

I've never seen science try to take away people's rights, let alone thoughts.

I've seen religion do both, though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Eugenics was an awkwardly popular movement not that long ago.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not true. Scientists say I can't lick needles I find in the park or stab myself with rusty nails or eat monkey brains scientists keep taking my rights away 😭😭😭

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

scientists dont tell you not to, the government does. scientists say it's probably not a good idea, but not that you can't.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Good scientists will just let you know the potential consequences and let you decide what to do.

Take global warming for example....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Scientists are more likely to encourage you to do dumb things so they can see the outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because there's always a relevant xkcd

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Randall is a genius

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Putting people's desire to have their beliefs uncontested on a pedestal was a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Faith based and ignorance pilled

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Biblecore

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Science doesn't prove anything. It disproves things until only a single theory remains.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

...single ~~theory~~ hypothesis remains.

A hypothesis is an observation stated in a falsifiable fashion, which allows it to be tested. Once a hypothesis has been tested thousands of times and always generates the same outcome, then it can become a theory.

Nonetheless, you know whats up, science proving shit only happens when the stars align. But disproving shit is super valuable as it allows researchers to reassess the hypothesis and experimental design in hopes of proving shit sooner rather than later.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't really disprove things either, but can be used to eliminate specific claims as not supported by evidence.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

… yet.

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