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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably not, maybe house arrest? I'm curious to see if this has an effect on the other cases, if any. Can Jack Smith easily add a 2016 election interference count now that this is proven?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Why can a felon run for president?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because when voters feel the punishment was unjust, they can choose to ignore it. For example: Nelson Mandela.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Because if they couldn't, elected officials would just have their opponents brought up on weak technical charges just to get them disqualfied.

"Sir, you have been found guilty of jaywalking. As this is the third time you've been charged with this crime, that bumps it up to a felony under the ijustmadethisup act of 1793. The fine will be $50+ court costs. I also have to let you know that because you are a convicted felon, you are no longer allowed to run for office and have been removed from the ballot. Have a nice day."

Not quite that silly, but you get the idea.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Maybe draw the line at idk, 30 felonies? That should cover any political bs.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If felons can't vote (they should be able to), they sure as shit shouldn't be able to run for office.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

If it makes you feel better, he can't vote for himself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Can he look over Melanie's shoulder while she votes for him like last time?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He is a Floridian though, doesn't it take a "simple" meeting with DeSantis's hand picked committee to get his voting rights back?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

This does make me feel better. Thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So, let's say a political party is somehow at fault for charging and getting a verdict of an opponent. This would make it very easy to block anyone from running against the party in power if they so choose.

The founding fathers saw how much of an issue this would be so limited the reasons for blocking someone from running for office. I don't think hush money is a good reason (though, doing so to block info that would make him lose an election I think should be but that will be up to the court)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Isn't there a bigger problem than who can run for president at that point?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

Let’s see how endlessly antagonizing the sentencing judge works out for him.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Once again, Betteridge's law applies perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

They had to fucking ask didn't they!?!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Two experts told NBC News that it's unlikely Trump will be imprisoned based on his age, lack of a criminal record and other factors — and an analysis of thousands of cases found that very few people charged with the same crime receive jail time.

During the trial, Judge Juan Merchan threatened to put Trump behind bars for violating his gag order, but it’s unclear if the former president will face similar consequences now.

Former federal prosecutor Chuck Rosenberg, an NBC News analyst, said it's unlikely that Merchan would sentence Trump, 77, to any jail time, given his age and his status as a first-time, nonviolent offender.

An analysis conducted by Norm Eisen, who worked for House Democrats during Trump’s first impeachment, found that roughly one in 10 people who have been convicted of falsifying business records are imprisoned, and those cases typically involved other crimes.

Kuby added that he believes "it is substantially likely Judge Merchan will sentence Trump to jail or prison time," despite the logistical and practical complications that locking up a person with Secret Service protection would entail.

It's also highly unlikely that comments that appeared to be aimed at sidestepping the gag order by Republican officials who attended the trial as Trump's guests will figure into the judge's reasoning, Kuby added.


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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

34 counts... If they don't sentence him, then what's the fucking point!? Anything less than jail time is just going to empower him. Lock his ass up!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Agreed, that post made it seem like he was innocent up until now. The e jean carrol conviction should relieve him of his first timer status

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

That was a civil suit, not criminal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Amen, it should also relieve him of his non-violent offender status. The man was found guilty of rape. The only reason he didn't serve jail time for that was because it was past the statute of limitations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was also a civil suit, not criminal.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I can commit all the election finance fraud I want in the 2024 election and not have to deal with it until 2032 if I'm caught!

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