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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I wonder how many comments on Lemmy were written out under a desk in class.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

This is dumb

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Can we just ban smartphones in general? Please?

Go back to payphones and pagers and if you need to carry information in your pocket, PDAs where you have useful non-connected apps and download information ahead of time at home and store on the device instead of using a slow, unreliable, garbage tracking device to find what you need.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I'm with you. I have similar relationship with connected devices as I do with cigarettes.

I don't like being threatened by the state but banning something has a bonus effect of making it look dirty.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While on the one hand I can agree there's a place and time to be present and participate appropriately, on the other hand it's so goddamned tiring to see politics that in situations of nuance zoom in on 'control them' as a thing everyone can rally to as if the solution of phone control was really going to be simple and accomplish its objectives.

I mean, criminalizing drugs seemed on its face to be a simple-enough thing to do, and a good idea- who could object to that, right? Who favors addiction, right? What could go wrong? Fundamentally, the ask for enough power to ban anything isn't a trivial ask, and it shouldn't be undertaken lightly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

But even if you decriminalized drugs (good!) you could still ban drugs in schools (also good!). Schools should be allowed to ban smartphones, which is what this bill would do.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

I think I actually agree with this. I'm libertarian and generally believe fewer restrictions are better, but schools should be able to restrict what kids have available to them during class. Kids should be able to bring them to school, but they should be put away while class is in session.

If parents disagree with that policy, they can enroll their kids somewhere else. But schools should absolutely have authority over what's allowed on school property.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only question I have is is there exceptions? I know a few kids with some medical conditions like diabetes that have monitors that synch to their phone to control medication or send alerts.... Wonder how they are going to address those situations. Otherwise, I could see the benefits on a smart phone ban during school hours. I just wonder how they are going to administer that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Schools with good administrations will make accommodations for kids that need it. Schools with bad administrations won't until somebody sues.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Here we are on lemmy knowing the damage that big tech has done and continues to do. Yet some of us think keeping smartphones out of school children's hands during school hours is controlling their lives?

We truly don't value teachers, we don't understand their contexts or education in general. School, especially public school is where we go to learn just not stuff from a board or a book. It's where we learn to live in a community. Hopefully a place where we can learn empathy by meeting other humans our age from similar and different walks of life. Where grow and develop, gain and also contribute. Where we have to learn to compromise because we share time and space with many human beings as opposed to say home schooling which is primarily driven by conservative religious folks.

While police and law enforcement keep getting more and more funding and support. Public education keeps getting defunded. Not enough teachers, books or supplies. Do more with less has been the norm for decades. Mirroring capitalism and paving the way for charter school factories where teachers and administrators are burned out even at higher rates.

Control over education is control over your future population. The less fully formed, the less humanist, the less critical thinking, the more centered on simply future workers, the more dystopian the future becomes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Nice to hear some positivity, especially about school.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

She is a horrible person but for this one thing I agree.

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