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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Kind of. Reddit 15+ years ago still had a larger user base than Lemmy did, but it feels kind of close to how Reddit did back then. Lemmy still needs some work, it has a long way to go, but I do like it so far.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

We need a new meme style to explode and the small communities to grow, then we'd be there.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

No, absolutely not. Lemmy is held together by "it's not Reddit" while Reddit was "here's this cool stuff!"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Lemmy's far smaller than Reddit was 10 or even 15 years ago.

There are some good foundations in place, but there's a loonnnggg way to go before we're seeing platform maturity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

*15+ years ago

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Close…but no.

Reddit was good for some fresh content, but a decade ago it was still a lot of bots and karma whoring taking over, reposts, and people falling over themselves to be the first to make the flippant quips that got all the upvotes on any topic. Reddit still did have all the nsfw/nsfl subs then, so there was still a little Wild West left in it.

That said, Reddit very much still had a community feel to it a decade ago. IMO that’s completely gone in all but the niche subs that are there specifically for the community. You don’t get to have conversations there much anymore. It’s usually someone deriding you pretty quickly when they disagree, and the downvote button is the first thing hit.

Lemmy is IMO still trying to settle on what it actually is. I think it’s better than Reddit was a decade ago because people are more inclined to converse than quip (though that very much does happen) but the low hanging fruit comment doesn’t always get the most upvotes, which is really nice. I enjoy that the fediverse is a group of connected communities rather than a bunch of communities all under one roof like Reddit - but I guess that’s the point, isn’t it?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (4 children)

No, Reddit 10 years ago was the kind of place where people who knew things would correct people who didn't.

Pretty much all social media today, including Lemmy, are now places where people who don't know things correct people who do.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure it isn't just a case of you having seen it a thousand time now and can spot bullshitters and couldn't do it a decade ago?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No. I used to abuse Cunningham's Law liberally. It's become next to worthless these days.

Edit: Literally here's an example of people down voting and trying to correct true information: https://lemmy.world/comment/10376712

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It still works in highly technical areas.

Or if you're a machinist someone will tell you the right way to do something as soon as they see you have the material. By the time you have it in the machine 6 other guys will have told you the right way to do it in six wildly different ways. Someone will suggest Vaseline instead of coolant. Someone will start bitching about Haas. Someone will insist that it's only possible with thru spindle coolant, regardless of depth. None of which matters because your code won't post to the 40 year old 3 axis mill you're using and the engineer gave you a print with impossible geometry anyway. GEE I DON'T KNOW TERRY DO YOU THINK THIS HUNK OF STEEL LOOKS LIKE YOUR PART YET

Anyway my point is sometimes there's more than one right answer, even if everyone says they have the one right answer.

Sometimes technical specifications limit you to a specific set of right answers, but the right answers you get are for different set ups entirely.

and sometimes, the circumstances surrounding your failure were given to you by the engineer in a state that was destined to fail, whether they knew it or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

t. someone that doesn't know anything that gets corrected all the time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The internet as a whole was so much better for this.

Free speech and exchanging of idea and views was great. Most of my time on YouTube was spent looking at out and out discussions, back and forth, about religion. Which seeing as I went to a religious school I didn't really have anyone to talk to that was very helpful for me.

Now people come to a conclusion and stick with it. But they also get encouraged by people doing exactly the same upvoting their view and down voting others. Evidence doesn't matter. Reddit and redditors used to encourage upvoting alternative opinions.

People are going so far as to want certain views banned just because it isn't their view. It's scary how much people want to be restricted. Reddit used to be great for free speech but now its terrible. I was hoping Lemmy would, by it's federated nature, be an exchange of different ideas and views but if anything it is a lot worse. (I actually find the mods to largely be okay. But the people are terrible, worse than reddit is at this moment it time)

So no Lemmy is nothing like reddit of old at all. I'd love to go back to reddit from 10 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well said on all counts.

Reddit was never perfect, but in my 12+ years there, it was never as bad as Lemmy has been the entire time I've been here.

Basically I'm only still active here because Reddit's mobile app is such trash and Lemmy is more convenient to browse from a phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's a 50/50 chance that something I post gets downvoted to hell and it doesn't seem to matter what I actually said.

On the bright side, I've seen more posts calling it out lately, so maybe things can start to turn around.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I was hoping that by being such a small and growing community I could help influence it's growth.

But watching how incorrect things about economy/business are upvoted, I'm getting sick of being down voted for having an economics degree and attempting to share some knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

For me its the growing extremist stances and ragebait articles, now that its got more users, the horrendous lack of moderation is starting to show

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, my main sub I participated in back on Reddit was /r/AcademicBiblical (also went to a religious-ish school growing up).

There's nothing like that sub here, and honestly even the sub itself isn't quite what it used to be when I pop back over to look in from time to time.

The web is just a different sort of place from what it used to be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

You couldn't be more wrong you stupid idiot. /s

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