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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you participate in any sort of a support for Palestine group/organization/protest, please do not tolerate antisemites, deny them whatever it is they want the moment you see them. They are only going to create future problems, possibly take over whatever you're doing and make you, who have done nothing wrong, look bad. Paradox of tolerance!

Likewise if you look to support Jewish people who are experiencing antisemitism, don't tolerate the "nuke Gaza" types...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Nah. Embrace hatred for people who are cruel to animals.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think most people can separate Jewish people from genocide from the country of Israel.

The only people confusing the issue want to make it an issue. Quashing pro-Palestine protests claiming they’re anti-Semitic when they’re not. Questioning the country of Israel’s actions is anti-Semitic when it’s not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

The only people confusing the issue want to make it an issue.

This is key.

There are people who are anti-Semitic, and there are people who are islamophobic, and those people all view the opposition as sub-human. They will don't want peace because they want to win.

And then there are the people who benefit from the conflict, and will stoke the fires on both sides. They don't care who wins, who dies, who suffers, because while there is violence and death, they can benefit themselves.

Any progressive engaged in a discussion needs to recognize whether they are talking to a zealot or a profiteer. The former might be reasoned with. Supporters of Israel or Hamas might be shown the error in their thought process.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think the problem is the lack of real progressiveness, I think the problem is with an attempt to gaslight it from both extremes. Just got banned from worldnews (again) on completely gaslit reasons because of criticism I was making against the Act.IL remnants operating over there. Downvoting into oblivion isn't enough for them anymore.

I've also noticed comparable instances of shadow removals from the other side of the coin in [email protected] where they similarly gaslit their reasons. I've sort of decided if both sides are going to be this putrid, then I'm going to step out of their propaganda wars, and gotta say, the Mossad side is rapidly losing ground regardless of the advantage they might have had.

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