A community for everything related to Palestine and the occupation currently underway by the occupying force known as Israel.
Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.
Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.
We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.
The genocide is still ongoing and many things are still developing in Palestine, but we are removing the limitation on only posting things related to the operation Flood of Al-Aqsa to this thread, you can now freely post over Lemmygrad again.
Please don't stop talking about Palestine.
Due to popular demand, please keep all posts about the operation to this megathread, sitewide.
To no surprise, now that there is a new major human rights catastrophy in the middle east, europeans are more worried about refugees entering their countries than the horrors inflicted on these people.
Just went to the local Vigil for Palestine but apparently the org canceled it just before the start, because the city didn't want to give a permit. Still like 150 people showed up to lay flowers and burn candles. Police being the fascist fucks they are started intimidating people mourning a massacre.
Fucking fascists
ACAB is not an exaggeration
Same police that has been trained in Israel btw 🤔
REMEMBER: the Occupier is unpopular the world over. People by and large stand with Palestine, even in the imperial core. The reason they are trying to outlaw protests for Palestine and supporting Palestine is because the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class, and governments want to make their people think that support for Palestine is lower than it really is.
I managed to go to a protest. It was kind of an accident. I suspected something might be planned and went to the time, on the day, and to the place that protests usually happen. Maybe 200+ people there. Half dressed in Palestine flags. Speeches. Poetry. Songs. Messages passed from relatives in Palestine to share with us.
I've been tearing up reading about it all this week. But in person? It was more uplifting than sad. Seeing so many people willing to spend their weekend doing this.
I completely agree, Crit. There's a good reason they don't want us to go outside and connect with others, to see that we stand on the side of humanity and that history will prove us right yet again.
The interesting thing was that the police were clearly supportive. I was a bit surprised to see them nodding along with the talks. They didn't join in the songs and the chanting. But from conversations I overheard, they were supportive. I joined a bit late so stood to one side and I also heard 'ordinary' passers by – you know, people who aren't engaged enough with politics to join a protest – walking past and talking about how bad things were for Palestinians. Seemed like almost everyone walking past was appalled at Israel.
The public stands with Palestine and they know they're being duped by the press. It lifted my mood significantly because all week I'd been given the impression from the silence of colleagues, my institution, my union, and the noise from the media that I was rather alone. Not so.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
How in the world is the public supportive of Palestine? If they aren't supportive of communism and general anti-imperialism/anti-colonialism, how are they supportive of Palestine?
We cannot allow Amerikan "news" media to dictate to us where the masses are at. Zionist outlets want us to believe that the Amerikan masses are on board with ethnic cleansing writ large.
I know otherwise reactionary people -- coworkers, customers, etc. -- who loathe the state of Israel for what it is doing. News media would have us believe that these otherwise reactionary folk are anti-Israel merely because they are antisemitic or some other such hogwash.
This is a litmus test for basic human empathy, and I think more people are passing than failing. The Amerikan news empire does not reflect the will or the ideas of the people, it attempts to shape them. By virtue of their class interests, bourgeois "journalists" are always tailing us and tailing workers.
Anti-imperialist journalists and their outlets like Abby Martin (Empire Files), Brian Becker (The Socialist Program), SomeMoreNews, MintPress News, Multipolarista, and more, are gaining traction and have been for a while. Paywalls and opaque anti-worker rhetoric are making rags like WaPo obsolete to the masses.
We also can't use astroturfed hellsites like Reddit to guage where people are at. Contrariwise, we shouldn't necessarily use anecdotal grass-touching evidence as indicative of a larger trend, either. My experience on the ground has been far more akin to comrade @[email protected] than bearing witness to the countrywide cavalcade of [proletarian] Zionist warriors Western news media typically wants us to believe exists, though.
the situation in gaza is so precarious and israel commit so many crimes that is very hard to wash everything, so there is that notion that israel isn't so nice, free and democratic so to speak
Israel dropped 6000 bombs in the last few days. That's as much as the US did on Afghanistan IN A YEAR. Afghanistan is 1800x bigger than Gaza.
Biden first: 'I totally saw images of beheaded babies!'
White House statement now: 'Biden did not ever see those images and they can't be verified'
Libs and others, if you are reading this, please support the right side of history. You are propagandized to hell the same way people were with Iraq, Vietnam, Cuba etc.
Words cannot describe the rage I am feeling right now. Palestine's liberation is such a fucking softball, and if people can so easily cheer for their genocide I frankly don't know what to do with myself in the US.
Apologies for the 'Dear Diary' type post, but I really just don't know how to alleviate this intense feeling.
It's not just the US. Seeing the people around me either not give a flying fuck about a literal unfolding genocide – or cheering it on… how am I supposed to look these people in the eye again? Help them? Why? I'm sickened by them. Never stop explaining, sure; but how does anyone need this explaining?
If we end up seeing a huge massacre of Palestinians, I will never let these people forget. To not be involved in politics or the news is one thing, but to be and to still support Israel is something deeply troubling and I don't need to be your friend or family after that.
This is definitely a make or break litmus test for who I want in my personal circle. I still have some friendships with ignorant conservatives. I will even tolerate anticommunist shit-takes from some friends.
I can and will strike from my life any and everyone who "stands" with this fascist project as it genocides an entire nation on live television.
arguing with a zionist side by side with a ukraine flag was the weirdest thing ive done today
Getting banned from r/worldnews for stating the objective fact that Israel propped up HAMAS to oppose the secular/leftist groups and now that's biting them back is the weirdest thing I've done today
My city just refused a pro Palestina protest that was planned tomorrow. The same city of which the far right mayor today remembered Israeli victims and called Palestina's uprising terrorism. The same city of which the police force has recently been trained by the Israeli police force.
The protest is still happening, albeit at a different place. And I'll be going.
My city just refused a protest
Freeze peach
Same mayor who wrote a book about freeze peach, woke and cancel culture btw
Stay safe, comrade.
Saw your comment about Western laws and such just now. You are right and it makes me a bit nervous for doing things like protest. The governments here are pro Israel and they are making that very clear. It's what their class interests tell them to do and they have the law and the law enforcement at their side.
But at the same time it's easy to yell Free Palestina and antifascism when things are relatively quiet. It's only when things get heated, like now, that these words can get a meaning. And I don't want to back down despite whatever danger I may face. Because if I do, they win anyway.
It's hard, isn't it? I wasn't sure whether to hit 'Reply' on that one as I didn't want it to be read as 'don't openly support Palestine'. We've just got to be careful about it. Avoid letting our enemies trap us into publicly supporting 'terrorist groups', because that could get you arrested at a protest, for example. Not that our enemies won't impose a false equivalence on us, anyway.
Keeping it slightly vague should be safe enough, I'd imagine. One of the good things about the performativity of liberalism is that it means some level of performativity is acceptable; and supporting Palestine is a part of that for many. Not for enough people, but for many. Lord knows there are enough crimes committed against Palestinians to protest all day every day about their treatment without needing to weigh up the actions of Hamas at a rally.
The zionists funneled the residents of Gaza at the Egyptian border, telling them that's where they were allowed to escape.
Then they bombed it.
The world is literally watching a holocaust happen. Not just reading about it like in the 40s. But watching it. And liberals are either ignoring it or standing with the ones perpetrating it.
Not a single person who stands with Israel should be allowed to forget what they supported.
Can I get a source? I'd love to show it to the people claiming Israel created a "safe zone"
Settlers deserve nothing but death. All are fascists. All are Nazis. Burn Israel to the ground.
The music festival was one of the most egregious displays of "civilian" settler disregard for Palestinian life I think is even possible. A literal rave on stolen land next to the concetration camp filled with the people they stole that land from. And that is what western media uses as anti-resistance atrocity propaganda.
Read a few interviews from their perspective too. They were all warned that militants broke out of Gaza a few miles away. The audacity to party right next to an open-air concentration camp is one thing. But they also knew there were violent disturbances.
Can't find the exact article at the moment, so feel free to help me out, but one survivor was quoted saying "This stuff happens there all the time."
Tinfoil time, but part of me almost suspects that the threat of an attack on the festival could have been underplayed by the IDF, just so they could have propaganda fodder.
Not just reading about it like in the 40s. But watching it. And liberals are either ignoring it or standing with the ones perpetrating it.
They did the same exact thing almost a century ago. It was the Red Army who brought the Holocaust to an end, not the West.
If only we had a Soviet Red Army now...
One of the saddest facts that you can learn as communist about the history of the Palestinian occupation is that the settler colonial army was as successful as it was during the first few decades of its existence thanks to incorporating a large number of Red Army veterans with experience conducting operations on the eastern front in WW2...
Traitors are gonna get whats coming to them
Smarmy piece of shit
This from the guy who was just glorifying an old ass Nazi and his violence against the USSR? Fuuucckkk oooffffff.