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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

i don't know if i'm a socialist or whatever all i know is that i just want trans and gay people to be able to live their lives, women to not have men make decisions about their bodies, borders to be abolished, people to not want the earth to burn up, and to ducking just care about conserving endangered species.

bonus points for elected officials to behave like fucking grown ass adults for once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not necessarily. Those things can be fixed without instituting socialism (if they're fixable. That's not a given) and may even be done better without it based on socialism's real record!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's a progressive outlook, but not a Socialist one, primarily because nothing you said has anything directly to do with Modes of Production.

A Socialist is someone who wants the Means of Production to be collectively shared, rather than privately owned. There are many forms of it, like Syndicalism, Anarchism, Marxism, Market Socialism, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I dont think anything you said would qualify you as a "socialist"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I think the abolition of borders falls under the umbrella of socialism

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint: If you ask most elected officials edit: in the US (of either party), any two of those as policy goals would make you a socialist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

fuck the US, why is it relevant what they think?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You'll find out when we get done with our "Republic" arc and start the "Empire" one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you have been on the empire thing for literal decades

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You ain't seen nothing yet, sheltered child of neoliberalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

i live in a colony of neoliberalism, im seeing things on a daily basis.

some of which coming from a direct consequence of the empire's decisions. some of which comes from genocides past.

there was never a republic in the first place for us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

So by your example, a socialist is someone who's not a dick? I can get behind that 😁.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is worse when you're an anarchist. Best case, they say you're a socialist. Worst case, they say you're an extremist rioter.

Both are not true, but the later couldn't be further from it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Anarchism would be closer to an extreme libertarianism than socialism. Socialism is usually seen as an overreach of government by those who oppose it, unless they are even further left than that and want more government involvement in the economy. If people can't even wrap their head around your political beliefs, how are you supposed have an intelligent conversation with them?