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[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Alright, Winamp. You can go be forgotten forever now.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Fondly remembered forever. As it was around 2000..

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago

I'm making my farts open source 😉

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Guess I’ll stick with foobar!

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[–] [email protected] 198 points 5 months ago (6 children)

WinAmp making their source code 'source available' instead of open source, and then dropping this phrase:

The release of the Winamp player's source code will enable developers from all over the world to actively participate in its evolution and improvement.

Yeah I don't think so

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yup, as much as I like Grayjay, I'm not going to help development much because it's "source available" instead of open source. There was an annoying bug I wanted fixed, and I was willing to go set up my dev environment and track it down, but they don't seem interested in contributions, so I won't make the effort.

Likewise for WinAmp. The main benefit to it being "source available" is that I can recompile it and researchers can look for bugs. That's it. They're not going to get developers interested.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Even if they accept patches, contributing still sounds like a bad deal. It's free labor for some company. FOSS at minimum means the right to fork, precisely what "source available" seeks to deny.

Leaving aside the question of winamp vs comparable programs, does anyone even care about desktop music players any more? I'm a throwback and use command line players, but I thought the cool kids these days use phones for stuff like that.

I understand there is some technical obstacle to porting Rockbox to Android, but idk what it is and haven't tried to look into it.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even outside of this obviously either clueless or AI-fabricated post, I'm still not convinced that it'll be OSS, in the way that we expect it to be. The phrasing used in announcement leads me to believing that they'll use some license, that allows them draconian control over the source. It'll be "open" as in being able to see it, but not really fork, or meaningfully contribute.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Just use WACUP

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Ha ha ha, playing your cards close. Only three steps away from profit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This does not whip the llama's ass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

No, it teased that llama's ass.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It might wipe it though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Winamp oh winamp.......
You still trying to exist even after so much other music player out there like AIMP, QMMP, CLEMENTINE, ELISA, etc.....
Maybe back in my childhood days you're king.....but nowadays nah.....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You know you only need one period to end a sentence, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Nope.........................................

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And now I'm curious how Winamp actually makes money.

**Edit

Just went to the website, it's a subscription Spotify knock off now. Still doesn't explain who are the people that actually pay for this.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

The same ones who still pay for AOL

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean... What contribution would this code actually be to the audio player world at this point?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I still miss the visualzers.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Love projectm!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does anything else in the audio player world really whip llama asses?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I don't think that you could reproduce the llama ass whipping feature even with all the code available.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Why would they call the open version 'openllama'? Isn't llama that ai model?

Edit: Thanks for the downvotes people, I'm sorry for not knowing a meme in a language that's not my native from before I was born

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"why would they call the AI llama? Isn't that an animal?"

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Because it has 'llm' in it? Makes way more sense than a music player formerly known as Winamp

Edit: it seems the company that owns it rebranded itself to llama last year. Still think it's a stupid choice since nobody knows their name and everybody knows Winamp. 'freeamp' would be the logical choice

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they always had a llama as a mascot and as part of their slogan

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Not always, since the Llama MP3 that came preloaded was introduced somewhere in 1.xx, yet that's still long enough (from 1998 to 2011 or so).

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Winamp, it really whips the llama's ass"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The OG llama. Before The Emperor's New Groove, before Tina in Napoleon Dynamite and before llm's.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not before SimCity’s llamas tho.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That's just a lie by the secret llama world government to distract us from whipping their asses.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not before llamas though. They be the most og.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Cease your heresy!

[–] [email protected] 106 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is it important? It was a cool program 30 years ago but it's just a playback UI right?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

It looks like their May 16th tweet stated source code would be made available to developers, and they are clearing up some ambiguity in this new one.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s not the old program anymore, and it already leaked a long time ago. It was obvious that the new one wouldn’t be open.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have the old one (5.x) installed and use it regularly. Is it still available for download anywhere? Would love for that one to be officially open sourced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's at best abandonware, but the source will never be released officially as it now belongs to a random megacorp.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Oh, now that is interesting. Thank you for that piece of information!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The new one is just a web UI with options for streaming music. There were talks of the old original Winamp going open source though, which bought nostalgic memories to many. Eithercase, with so many music players on both Windows and Linux, I doubt Winamp would a niche case to fill.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

But do any of them Whip the Llama’s Ass?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how well XMMS would work on mordern Linux

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It works quite fine, use it daily. Well, XMMS2 to be pedantic.

Just some shellscripts bound to windows-keys to pause/play and load new files.

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