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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Screenshot shows three comments being removed from [email protected] (this community) by one of 196’s mods with the reason for removal being “.” (literally just a period).

I looked into this and discovered that the comments were just some fairly polite, if snarky, comments in response to the mod themselves. I could not identify a reason for comment removal per the site or community rules, so if there was one, “.” doesn’t cut it.

This is a callout post y’all. Do better. Start putting actual moderation reasons into the modlog for the benefit of you and other mods, otherwise what is the point of a transparent and federated platform?

As of now, it looks like the mod involved is just using their mod powers in a self-serving fashion. I am not making that accusation now, but that’s how it looks.

Please and thank you. Mods here do an excellent job keeping 196 on Lemmy a bearable place to be, and I know you are already struggling to staff the positions, but please also hold one another accountable when it comes to misuse of power. Thanks :)

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to review our mod policy and talk things over with my team to try to minimize this going forwards.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: I kind of regret writing this instead of just talking with the mods, but I'll leave this up so that the replies aren't left without context.

This kind of reminds me of that time someone looked at the mod logs and noticed that someone who got banned for allegedly being transphobic got unbanned and made a mod (the unbanning reason was something like "became a mod"). This was on the last call for mods. I mean, nothing against if the person regretted writing the thing that got them banned, but it's fucking sus that the mods did this without talking with us about what was happening (and nobody fucking knows who the mods are because they never "presented" themselves as mods, they could've just said "hello, my name is X and I'm a new mod", but they never did).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So funny enough, I was the person who banned them like a week before, and it was due to me not following the chain of comments. If you want, I will share the discord mod log where I found out who and any, and double-checked the reality of the situation.

Believe me I don't want transphobes running the biggest community on a trans server. But if every mod saw no issues, and I did, I assumed I was weird. And I was.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (2 children)

otherwise what is the point of a transparent and federated platform?

So we can call this behavior out, then pack it up and move 196 to a new instance where this mod isn't in control.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My dear, you are of course free to do so, that's the fun of the fediverse.

I also think it's good to call out flawed modding moments so we as a small group o volunteers can work in this and improve. So this (shitpost)-Forum can remain as big as it is in the moment.

Otherwise you are free to write Moss and become part of the mod-team

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Otherwise you are free to write Moss and become part of the mod-team

I did when they put that sticky up a while back, but I applied too late and never heard back from them lol

But to be clear I'm not saying we should do that right this instant, I'm just saying it acts as a good deterrent from letting this stuff fester.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There’s more than 1 mod on 196, might want to consider waiting longer than 30 minutes for a response before deciding everyone should leave

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

True lol, I'm just saying that the option being on the table is important. If they don't fix the issue, they risk everyone leaving for a better 196 elsewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

also found this comment got the user permabanned by the same mod for “corpoposting,” which is on the “will get your comment removed” list in the rules, not the “will get you banned” list. and yeah, user was banned after a discussion with our same friendly mod.

will update this comment with more if i find it. i do want to reiterate that i’m not here out of spite, i just want to bring attention to nonconstructive behaviors. :)

edit: ok ending my search as i tend to agree and am thankful for the rest of the mod’s recent actions

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I will attempt to do better, but if the community wishes, I will resign as moderator due to my real life getting stressful and being a moderator here isn't going to solve real life issues.

EDIT: I have restored the posts.

EDIT 2: About the banned user IsThisAnAI @lemmy.world, they are constantly being reactionary and defending corporations at every given moment. It felt right to do it from my point of view. Right now they are complaining about "nanny state california" and that's not something I personally want in this community.

EDIT 3: I am going to do some shopping and chores, if the community wants me gone, I will remove myself when I am back, or have the mod team boot me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not calling on you to leave just please best don’t do it again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Oh I know. But I think when I'm home I'll at least leave the mod team for a month to have one less mental weight. Been talking to Moss and the others on the discord.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

196 mod or instance mod?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Me, the mod. I restored the posts and I am willing to de-mod myself if wanted/needed by the community.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

mod of 196, will clarify in body text, ty :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Senkyuu <3

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