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Was wondering what the hell was going on this morning.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I use startpage as my primary search engine. It's also privacy based and has an A rating from TermsofService;Didn't Read.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I feel like this article took a quick turn from "Bing went down" to "Google bad".

I am glad more people realize who's actually behind DDG and such.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

DDG and others don't really hide the fact that the results come from Bing. People really underestimate how hard it is to make a search engine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I haven't opened the article yet, but are you complaining that the article talks about what's in the headline?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Absolutely is one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not brave enough

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm using Kagi and can't be happier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just started using it today after seeing a comment on it, it may have been yours and it seems fantastic, I took a look at their demo searches and it reminded me of old google while still keeping elements from new google I find useful, and being able to disable or disable any feature I want is amazing.

I haven't dug in too deep on making my own lenses yet, since they had some very sensible defaults (I mean seriously they have a default lemmy/fediverse lens) but that feature seems incredibly cool and useful if I want to set up something to easily search a variety of niche, focused websites on a subject I want to search on a regular basis.

I was worried about it not featuring conversions/math stuff but prepared to use WolframAlpha for that, but it included them, the only thing is oddly after providing the answer to my test math query of 88+17 it showed search results from the quran and the bible lol. But I suppose that was just a minor oddity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

$10 a month happy? Not being an ass, just really asking.... I thought it was steep when I checked it out the first time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

As someone also using Kagi:

  1. There's a free tier, so you can try it out as much as you want (technically you only get 100 searches, but as with all free trials you can just make a new account)

  2. There's a cheaper tier at $5 now, which gets you 300 searches per month. Depending on how much you use it, that might just be enough.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I too use Kagi but it's worth noting that Kagi gets most of its results by paying and using other search engines including Google and Bing, so it's not 100% independent or immune from say Bing's outage. Still the best option by far though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It could become independent with sufficient funding. I think that's part of the idea.

Though, being able to use other indexes is likely still helpful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been using Metager more and more lately. Most of the time, it seems that the results are better than or least as good as DDG and Google.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Metager uses Yahoo and Yandex in the free version, when you pay you can also get search results from bring, mojeek and brave, but you can select which search engines you want to use in the settings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While we're on the topic of search engines, does anyone know how to install your own private Whoogle instance? I've been a little confused by the instructions I've found; do I need my own server to set this up?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you just want to use it from your home computer / network you can run it locally, either installing it directly or in a container. You only need a server (or a way to connect to your home network) if you want to access it from elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks! Will give it a try (but may have more questions as I try to set it up).

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, was this why DuckDuckGo was down yesterday?

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 month ago

Yeah. It was pretty funny to me because downdetector.com (run by the speedtest.net folks) had 4 times the error reports submitted for DDG than Bing. Bing has a bigger market share, so I think it's purely down to DDG users being more technically-minded.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i'm not sure that i agree with this at all. Microsoft, itself, has been having issues lately, and i don't think this is a Bing vs Google search thing. But i believe those issues are temporary.

Overall, the direction that Google is taking with its search engine is probably a bigger threat to Google, considering, i suspect, people really aren't going to like it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Problem is that regular Google results are also getting worse. Google has to change something about search, and they're most worried about chatgpt being a better alternative to Google search.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Google search needs to just branch itself off into several micro-search engines. It is useless as a general purpose search engine.

Again, try searching 'skillet' and you'll get more results on the band with the name than the pan itself. Make a media-based micro search engine where it's nothing but music, movies, shows .etc

But as big as Google is, they won't do it.

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