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Vice President Kamala Harris said in a meeting Saturday with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi that Washington will not allow for the forced relocation of Palestinians or any redrawing of the current border of the Gaza Strip.

“Under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza,” Harris said, according to a statement from the vice president’s office.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Uh huh.

And yet she’s giving Israel bombs to destroy people’s homes. Literally forcibly relocating them. Never mind that 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated from their land 75 years ago.

These statements are just cover for more Israeli murder. It’s designed to make people feel complacent.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wait so 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated, why 50% of Gaza are children under 18...

Make up your mind over your made up numbers please.

And calling this war "Israeli murder" is ignoring the existence of actual terrorists who keep innocent civilians hostage, and who targeted attacked and murdered over 1,000 innocents.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact. Murder does not justify more murder.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh so war is never justified then huh? When you've been massacared with intent for further destruction by that same people, you can't retaliate, you're just supposed to sit back and cry about it. Sure, ok.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh look words that aren't the words I said.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"murder does not justify more murder"

The murder which is happening is by a war. If you don't know that, you're living under a rock. And what I said, is that this war is justified. So yes, this is exactly what you said, you just deny it. War = murder. "Murder isn't justified" -> "war isn't justified". Very simple logic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. You don't get to conflate war crimes with normal casualties.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Whatever, I really don't care about what you think. You can blame it all on one side, ignoring the ruthlessness of the other on their enemies and even on their own citizens. Just ignore Hamas hiding guns in schools, ignore them firing rockets from public parks, ignore them targeting civilians (with no military infrastructure/personnel). Just ignore it all, and blame the jews for everything. Just like the 1930s. "War crimes" my ass. If you really cared about war crimes you would've complained to Hamas, not the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I call people who kill 5000 children with bombs murderers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh damn I guess churchill is a murderer monster huh.

Intention matters. The fact that you ignore it, is bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, when the IDF purposely bomb schools, hospitals, evacuation corridors which they told to evacuate through, UN facilitates, etc. that makes them murderers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Dude those same civilian facilities are proven to store artillery. Once a site is being used for war purposes, don't be surprised that it's being destroyed - in a war.

Everybody is criticizing Israel for bombing UN facilities, while no one critisizes Hamas for storing ammunition in said facilities. That's just hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Um.... They've already been pushed out of their homes and relocated. That was under the "circumstance" of Israel invading and killing them. I don't think the phrase "under no circumstances" applies here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Better pushed out than slaughtered like Be'eri.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, it’s just going to be like past big conflicts. Where Israel claims people were not forced to relocate.

Folks won’t be “forced,” but their lives and their family’s lives will be at great risk if they don’t relocate - so a lot of people are going to relocate if they have the option. If they don’t, they’re basically sleeping on a shooting range.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

By "past big conflicts" you mean the 48 war...? Because that's the only war where that happened

And you can reasonably assume that things are different from 70 years ago, and that nobody, not even Israel, wants Gaza now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Will there be any Palestinians left to relocate when this genocide is over?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Lol what? Does anyone here think anyone in Israel is going to kill 2 million Gazans? It's like no one here knows the difference between mass killings and wars. You don't evacuate civilians in mass killings, you slaughter them in their homes (sort of like what Hamas did on 7/10)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think Israel minds the borders of Gaza remaining as is, just as long as there aren't any Palestinians living there. They'll "voluntarily" relocate, for humanitarian reasons, since most of the infrastructure, houses, and hospitals happened to fall down.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

The only ones who mind the borders of Gaza are Hamas and Islamic Jihad. They literally want all of Israel and Jews eradicated.