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[–] [email protected] 120 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Why is Winnie the Pooh dressed like a sexual predator?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

The two are hardly mutually exclusive....oh, bother....

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Yup China has the fastest growing billionaire and millionaire class. It's no more socialist than America but we need a boogy man, as long as that antagonist isn't capitalism the wheels towards the cliff will keep turning.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Do you think it’s socialism that makes the US establishment wary of China?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Indeed. That’s why I asked the question.

Say what you will about how fucking stupid American foreign policy is and has been, but it’s at least somewhat tempered its approach to socialist governments around the world.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Even in the Cold War, it was horrifically uneven. We were cozy with Yugoslavia and intermittently cooperative with the Arab socialist states (and Israel, which was dominated by the at-the-time-actually-left Labour coalitions), but couped the democratic governments of Mossadegh in Iran (who wasn't even a socialist) and Allende in Chile for seeming a little too 'red'.

Diving into Cold War history, you realize how much of the lines sold about realpolitik, liberal internationalism, and material conditions are all less important than their defenders present them as.

No one has a plan. There's no rationality or structure to it. Personal quirks of low-ranking bureaucrats and cultural perceptions of political decorum are often as important as national-scale economic concerns.

It's why democratic participation and awareness of foreign affairs is so goddamn important. Because otherwise, Mr. Empty Suit in a sinecure position during an unforeseen crisis who had a fucking cold the day a meeting was supposed to happen determines the fate of hundreds of thousands.

Shit's almost never inevitable.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it's odd honestly, only after effectively defeating marxism-leninism globally has the U.S. started to accept socialism.

Though it probably could've been predicted, the Socialist and, to a varying degree, the Communist Parties (France and Italy), had a large amount of influence in the European democracies of the Cold War, and the U.S tolerated it, mostly because those parties upheld democracy. It makes sense that this attitude towards foreign policy would spread to how the U.S. treats any nation globally, not just Europe.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

No, but it's a convenient drum to beat for the right-wing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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