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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I need to start growing my own tobacco.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I've been wanting to do that for a while now but haven't tried it yet because the Wikihow article about growing tobacco says that the last step is to age it for 5-6 years. Turns out that step is optional (it even says so in the article, I just never read past the first bullet point), though you'll get harsh tobacco if you skip it. But I don't smoke, so I don't care about harshness.

Anyway, you should give it a try, maybe it's fun, and working with plants is always a good time :3

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The majority of carcinogens from smoking tobacco are created by burning the plant fibers. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do to improve their health. Vaping exposes individuals to fewer carcinogens than smoking, but still has the negative health impacts of nicotine alone on heart and mental health and still some carcinogen exposure.

SmokeFree.gov has free evidence-based resources to help quit!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I know that, it's just an ironic joke. It's funny because cigarettes are actually worse.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What about the meat based alternative?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

High schoolers should cooperate and help each other quit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Exactly. High schoolers will have sex with each other, so they may as well do it to help their friends kick addiction. Better to live long as a sucker than die early as a smoker.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wonder sometime how bad for the health it is to smoke tabacco leaves, just tabbaco nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The majority of carcinogens from smoking tobacco are created by burning the plant fibers. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do to improve their health.

SmokeFree.gov has free evidence-based resources to help quit!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Then how come cannabis doesn't have the same cancer profile?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

It's mostly about the dose of carcinogens. THC is far less addictive than nicotine, so on average people who exclusively use cannabis inhale less smoke than people who smoke tobacco. A pack a day of cigarettes is a very common amount for people who smoke tobacco. That's 20 cigarettes, or 14-16 grams of tobacco a day. Few people who exclusively use cannabis are smoking 14grams/half oz a day.

There are two other major factors limiting our knowledge of the health impacts of cannabis smoking: 1) it remains federally illegal and therefore hard to get research funding. 2) a large proportion of the studies over the past several decades with people who smoked cannabis were confounded by many of the participants also smoking tobacco

TLDR: it's not great to inhale smoke of any kind, as it does contain an abundance of carcinogens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a growing body of evidence that pot smoke can cause/exacerbate emphysema. It's been nigh on impossible to study the actual health risks associated with marijuana smoke due to it's legal status in most countries. Now that legalization is taking root, don't be surprised if we find out over the next 10-20 years that smoking pot is just as bad, if not worse than tobacco.

The differences in the way people smoke pot over tobacco (unfiltered, inhaling deeply and holding it in vs filtered, short, quick breaths) is known to deposit more tar in the lower respiratory tract. So even if there are fewer bad things in pot smoke per given volume, a lot more smoke is sticking to your lungs, increasing exposure and causing damage.

If you (or anyone else for that matter) are set on inhaling anything other than air, it's best to vape from a harm reduction standpoint. There's several orders of magnitude less nasty shit in vapor than smoke, no matter the substance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'll let you know how it goes, I'm coming up on about 30 years of smoking the sweet sweet cheeba.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't take what I wrote as an indictment, I don't exactly follow my own advice lol. I wish I could still smoke, weed gives me instant panic attacks nowadays. Happy toking!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Is it possible for you to just consume it orally through oils?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tobacco tends to contain high levels of Polonium-210, which is radioactive and decays into lead, so.

The problem with cigarettes mostly isn't additives, it's the above, and the fact that smoke in general is bad for you, and contains all sorts of nasty chemicals

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I've seen two brands that claim they are nothing but dried tobacco with no additives; but I know that must be bullshit because some of the additives are mandated by the government. Like the shit that makes it go out faster to prevent wildfires.

Those brands are Nat's and American Spirit. They both also taste like dogshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Omg I loved Nat's. I had quit smoking cigarettes before they closed down but I was still kind of sad to see them go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

We live in a world where I read "high schoolers" and my brain autocorrected it to "high school shooters".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well, if you leave the tar out, it would be better than regular cigarettes. Not sure how that compares to vapes though. The small, cheap ones put burnt copper in your lungs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s metal… in ya lungs!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The children crave the iron lung

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Even without tar, you're still breathing in smoke

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

No arguing. Just comparing apples to other apples.

Safest form of travel isn't airplanes. It's staying home.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Go completely green and cut off that filter for a pure experience.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Heck go completely green and remove the tobacco and replace with marijuana

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago

And miss out on those natural asbestos minerals?