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[–] [email protected] 107 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Reason #150 on why Fallout New Vegas is the best Fallout:

Bethesda despises it so much that it'll never get an update, remaster, or get repacked into an anniversary edition.

No Todds, No Masters

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Yeah I know, the show came out and everyone is hyped because of that. But maybe put those resources into fixing shit in Starfield?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Shouldn't they just beg Bethesda to incorporate the script extenders directly into the new releases or the script extender devs to update?

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

No, they're not.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Todd Howard: we hear you fans, we are currently working on updates for Morrowind, Starfield and Elder Scrolls Online which will break add-on/mod support and ruin the frame rate for those games instead of just FO4!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'd be thrilled to get another Morrowind expansion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Too bad, you get a battlepass instead!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Elder Scrolls Online isn't a Bethesda (BGS) game.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I play vanilla. As long as the updates stop my constant crashes on Linux, update away.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

I play vanilla

constant crashes

Yeah that sounds right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean, I get it, I do, I love modding... But can't they just not upgrade or even downpatch?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It’s not that they can’t, it’s that people are getting blindsided by updates to a game which supposedly hasn’t received updates for over half a decade, and downgrading on Steam is a surprisingly huge PITA. The Midnight Ride recommends patching, fwiw.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How can you even downgrade on steam?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

you download the corresponding depots using the console / steamcmd. Here's the process using the console.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why are they accepting automatic updates???

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

In my particular case, I just didn’t know it was enabled (my modding guide mentioned a way to stop it, but I guess I did it incorrectly). The game hadn’t received updates in half a decade, and I don’t really use Steam for anything else. Apparently, I wasn’t the only one in that boat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because the game is old and hasn't been worked on in years. They're no reason to even think about turning off updates for it unless you happen to know the random years later update is coming.

But I learned the hard way awhile ago with Xcom 2. They "update" that all the time, but don't do anything to the game, is just the shitty launcher they keep updating every month.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Manual updates are the way. Pin your versions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Steam doesn't have a version pinning. Automatic updates are forced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought TMR was getting discontinued over this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

No, fortunately enough. A FO5 written by Obsidian could be released as a bug-free superset of FO4, but includes the whole USA and the moddinglinked people would still be trying to mod FO4.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They can. The issue is it'd eventually split the community. Mods that no longer have support will be lost, and the ones that do will either decide it isn't worth updating each time or have to put up two versions. It also creates needless new work for people, especially the F4SE devs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Just look at the current state of Skyrim modding.

Aside from some still holding to LE. There are the 1.5.97 SE users and the 1.6+ AE users. And there have been at least one or two more updates in the 1.6 line that also caused more issues and require their own dedicated builds of various mods.

Its fucked

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Damn shame. I hope they don't touch my baby NV.

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