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*What rights do you have to the digital movies, TV shows and music you buy online? That question was on the minds of Telstra TV Box Office customers this month after the company announced it would shut down the service in June. Customers were told that unless they moved over to another service, Fetch, they would no longer be able to access the films and TV shows they had bought. *

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

That's why I'm always interested in self-hosting. I have my own Plex and Jellyfin seedbox server for the private trackers I'm in, with a VPS hosting an OpenVPN to make it look like I'm in a different country, just to make it that much safer. It works damn well.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

More and more it is becoming a good idea to store things on your own private equipment. If we don't demand ownership of our own possessions we will soon own nothing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't disagree but surely it's not impossible to add some regulations to protect the consumers here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Legislation is always years behind tech.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Which means it's just about due.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

While possible, by the time it comes around it'll be too late.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Just another victim of WEF.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

My whole library is wipped out

I assumed this was about an actual library and not some shmuck who got suckered into a thinly veiled rental service.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The idea that you could trust a corporation, any corporation, at its word is laughable on its face, and yet the courts have been relying on them to "follow the rules" unsupervised for years. Now capitalism doesn't make anything that isn't designed as a piece of shit that falls apart, and everything is a lie that they're also making money from, from plastics recycling (not real and they make money on the chemicals they sell to the recycling industry) to the content you make that they get paid for and you don't.

The whole thing needs to go, all of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Even if they were trustworthy, nothing lasts forever.

Does anyone seriously think Google Play Movies or whatever they call it is going to be around in 50 years? Audible? Spotify?

Unlikely.

I grew up with access to books that were printed before my parents were even born. I doubt your grandkids will be able to say the same. Not if you buy into DRM-infected ecosystems and vendor lock-in, anyway.

The only consolation is that pirates are always one step ahead. But I wouldn't want to count on that remaining true in 50 years either.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The idea that you could trust a corporation, any corporation, at its word is laughable on its face

We're surrounded by corporate entities all trying to leech profit out of us.

It's less a question of trust and more of information alternatives. When all you can hear is the din of advertisement, it's difficult to chart a path through the racket.

You're bound to get suckered by someone, eventually.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

You don't own anything that is not on your own system and/or without any DRM.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You will own nothing and be happy.

This is why sites like lemmy are important.

We need to put an end to corporate tyranny.

Humans in power are too egocentric to not be kept in check.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yep, we are what make these sites important.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

You will own nothing and be happy.

Unironically the future of capitalism, as it devolves into feudalism with more killer robots.

You've got the CEO (Absolute Monarch) who owns all the shit and you work on it in exchange for not being killed or deported. Maybe you get some treats from time to time. More likely, you just get someone from the PMC to tell you to pray more.

Humans in power are too egocentric to not be kept in check.

A handful of humans with the power to deliver unlimited genocide on their neighbors are hard to keep in check.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Corporations had already proven they cannot be trusted with any long-term leasing or subscription long before they started passing that phrase around.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Corporations have also already proved very difficult to actually hold to account. They can basically do as they please, with relative disregard for any consumer protections that may already exist. It's not good, but it can get worse.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

She later said Telstra had contacted her and offered a free Fetch box, which she acknowledged was a “reasonable resolution”.

And we have learned exactly nothing here. See you in 2 years when Fetch closes down and you are not getting anything back because you actually did not "buy" those movies on Fetch but on the previous platform.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Well, that or go to court for a movie collection. I'd phrase my statement differently, but I can see the appeal of the settlement.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep, assuming this new service lasts that long. Could be a year or less.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Stop trying to make fetch happen!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It’s not going to happen!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

"piracy"

... Wait, no. Piracy is the answer!

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