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Please write the 3 phone brands (in order please) which you think they bring the least number of third-party apps.

Notes:

  • 1- PrivacyGuides recommends Google Pixel. But it is not selling on my country. I can not bring it from other countries because it will not have warrant.

  • 2- We also don't have fair-phone and nothing-phone (i can not bring it from another country).

  • 3- we only have: general-mobile, huawei, samsung, asus, tcl, htc, xiaomi, vivo, infinix, oneplus.

  • 4- please dont recomend custom ROM. Its technically difficult for me. Also I will recommend the device to my friend (they don't have even an idead what is custom-rom)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You have three options:-

  1. Use a tool like Universal Android Debloater to disable (but not completely remove) them.

  2. See if you can get Nokia or Motorola phones. These have mostly vanilla Android.

  3. Get a Xiaomi or OnePlus phone with a custom ROM pre-installed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Pixel and GOS , very easy to install. Warranty blaha. Oneplus usually have a lot of lineage support. Spend and afternoon on YouTube , XDA forum and learn.

All of your brand's listed are bloated. Samsung is really bad though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

it will not have warrant.

No warrant will refund our privacy.

Its technically difficult for me. Also I will recommend the device to my friend (they don’t have even an idead what is custom-rom)

You think we were born knowing it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Nokia ? I have an XR20. Doubles as a GPS etc on the front of my bicycle, its great, has a headphone jack and SD expansion.

I am not that familair with their lineup though there is an XR21 I think? And a bunch of other models.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Keep it with smartphones like you would with every other computer: reinstall the preinstalled OS. Meaning in Android: a model that supports custom rom.

Btw, Samsung has probably the most, hum, custom vendor rom on their phones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Latest samsung models are quite locked down (at least I dont see any custom ROM for them on xda) talking about high end ones

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Motorola it's a good one.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You might want to take a look at Universal Android Debloater it may help, but not necessarily meet all your requirements.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

This is very sound advise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On Xiaomi it's very easy to remove whatever you want without rooting. Here's a 3:30 min video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rqhoMpr_Y

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://www.piped.video/watch?v=3_rqhoMpr_Y

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What difficulties do you encounter with the custom ROM stuff?

If you get a oneplus, they are very forgiving of things you could do to brick a phone.

A recent oneplus and installing a custom ROM (LineageOS + MicroG) would be fairly doable for a larger audience than just the "nerd" or "hacker".

If people know what you struggle with particularly, they can help better.

To get rid of google completely, a custom ROM or other technical things are necessary, but debloating using a standard tool is a good first step and is better than what you will have from the off.

https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That depends on the model. Plenty of newer OnePlus phones use mediatech processors with little to no custom ROM support.

A fact I found after buying a new OnePlus phone without doing any research because I was in a desperate situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah I see, is bootloader unlocking etc still available? (A more techy person could still go hard on privacy implementations)

I'm using nothing myself but the op said its unavailable in their country. I also noted that now lots of ROMs come preloaded with GAPPS whereas you had to load separately in the past.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's common but phones like the 10R don't have any support for unlocking bootloaders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ah that's fair. I think I had the 9 or maybe 7

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Google Android comes with tons of bloat so custom roms are the simplest these days.

You can buy devices running /e/os last time I checked

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've read on several websites that Nokia comes with pretty much stock Android.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Motorola as well. Either way, stock android is very intertwined with Google bullshittery, making a degoogled ROM like DivestOS or GrapheneOS necessary for proper privacy from google. A privacy respecting ROM won't fix relience on google apps though.

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