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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

the sovcit subs on reddit are one thing i actually miss. seeing those people's crazy misadventures and watching them get pwned was always a hoot.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Do individual sovereign citizens last long or do the groups keep churning through new members? I imagine at some point they have to realize that their non-payments never go through.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I imagine “wins” are sprinkled into the group to foster enough survivorship bias to avoid most of them using the critical thinking that they don’t have.

I ran a small business because I had time to waste. The first thing you learn is how to deal with non-payment. While in this country it’s pretty “simple” to send a letter of demand and then go to tribunal, it’s a huge waste of time. I imagine plenty of people just decide “fuck this, this person is clearly a sad enough individual as is” and don’t bother following up. Especially if your legal system is iffy in regards to civil matters. How anyone think this will work on corporations who have lawyers and accountants though is beyond me.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I also am curious about this. Makes me wonder if they're so low IQ that they take it all the way to collections and beyond. I suspect taking responsibility isn't exactly in their vocabulary.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 months ago (7 children)

These sovcit posts look like they belong in the wizarding world or something to me. They read like

"I sent three eyes of newts to the ministry of dark arts, and one wing of fairy to the department of destinies, but the overlords of magic constraint still won't let me fly my broomstick to the neverland. Why are they illegally preventing me from binding with the one true dark form? What did everyone else do to get their vessels stamped for approval?"

Meanwhile, their electric company is like, "Yo, you used $50 worth of electricity. We need you to send us $50 in usable currency if you want to continue using electricity from us. Please send us usable currency instead of jars of spiders like you did last month. Thanks."

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why do the SovCits go through all this trouble with all of these complicated quasi official forms? I would think someone who doesn't want to be associated with the government would want to avoid signing anything that looks remotely official.... Shouldn't they be paying their bills with gold krugerrands they keep buried in mason jars in the backyard or something?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Like, at least one of these sovcits has got to be a small business owner, right? What would happen if you tried to pay them in the same way?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have zero doubt they have an answer.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (12 children)

It's sad that the letter from T Mobile is clearly a template. This isn't some one off, they get so many they have a standard response.

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