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"b-but bears are actually dangerous!" Shut the hell up.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop on the bear situation, what happened?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Something about would you feel safer being stalked by a creepy dude or being stalked by a bear in the woods. Both could equally kill you, just one is more likely than the other to actually kill you.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (20 children)

Yes, this is the correct take.

The bear meme is meant to make men uncomfortable and surprised by how they are seen as a generalization among women. It isn't meant to be anti-men or anything, it's just meant to show the lived experience of women to men in a hypothetical absurdity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I get that, and you're right. But a lot of people are taking the meme too far, and taking something that was originally good, and making it it anti-men. Men's feelings actually matter, and we as society need to start actually thinking about them, rather than just telling them to man up all the time.

I've talked to a whole bunch of anti-bear men, and all of them accept the point when told in an empathetic way that acknowledges their right to feel the way they do. You can take that feeling and channel it as a force for good, rather them antagonising them and pushing them further away

(Not saying you in particular are doing this)

Edit: Please respond instead of downvoting. I'm failing to see the problem with identifying that there's a enough antagonistic commenters that maybe it's pushing people in the wrong direction. And we now require an over-correction of empathy to undo that damage.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So, people's safety is more important than people's feelings, basically.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Here's my hot take on all this:

Fellas, it's not that your feelings don't matter, everyone's feelings matter, it's that your feelings don't matter more than the safety of others.

You're getting mad at the wrong shit here. You're mad at the women for not wanting to be stuck in a forest with a random dude, when in all actual fact, that decision was borne from a plethora of experience with random dudes, most of that experience being negative.

Almost all of that negativity is because there's to fucking many creepy ass dudes making us all look bad. To be blunt, I have high hopes, and expectations from my fellow man; especially when it comes to respecting women. Yes, there's a nontrivial number of crazy bitches out there, in the same breath, there's a lot of crazy dudes too. They're making us all look bad. Be mad at them.

The women are only making the best decision for their own health and safety, based on their experience. Be the change you want to see in the world, my brothers. Be that change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Can we fix this comment for the whole lemmy instance to read?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago
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