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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Steam has never tried to battle piracy head on, yet it succeeds. Please take note, Netflix, it is your card to lose.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

To be fair, only a handful of publishers were able to take their cards and go elsewhere. The media companies were a lot more on top of dragging their products off of Netflix.

Nobody would be on steam just for Valve games, after all, and indie has a much lower barrier of entry.

While they could certainly distribute their current products better, a lot of the issues they have now (see: belated frogs comment) aren't things they really had control over.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Netflix is full of reptiles who don't care to offer a better service. All they want is enough market share to strongarm consumers into giving them more money.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

..If you are expecting wild profits, year after year, ever increasing. Turns out that's unsustainable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make Netflix more convenient than my ARR setup and I'll happily come back.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Netflix: “Should I get short term profits by price gouging and forcing commercials on people (thereby driving people to piracy) or should I forgo year over year profit increases by continuing to provide decent tv with no commercials and no price increases and delivering consistent profits?”

Also Netflix:

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Piracy isn't stealing if buying isn't owning.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

There was a resounding chorus of "DUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" that echoed across the land as Netflix discovers this reality.

[–] [email protected] 164 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Piracy isn't even free! People pay thousands of dollars for hardware, and hundreds per year for electricity and various service providers.

But they actually get what they want for that money: Being able to watch whatever you want, anytime, on any device, in high quality and without ads. It must be really hard for streaming services to compete with features as futuristic as that!

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Seriously. I'm running a Synology with 12x16TB. That'd buy a bunch of months of streaming services...but this way actually gives me content to watch that I want to watch.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Gee whiz, can't imagine why...

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Says the guys that reduced piracy to a fraction of its former self before getting too greedy. Piracy wasn't affecting them, but it's a side effect of what they have become.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Netflix should've realised this would be the end result. The moment you needed 5-6 different streaming platforms to watch all the movies and tv shows you want, was the moment it became easier and significantly cheaper to pirate the content.

None of the big companies that decided to cash in ever stood a chance.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Infinitely reproducible digital media has little inherent value. As the article acknowledges, the value proposition Netflix offered was convenience. If pirate sites offer more convenience than Netflix offers legitimate users, Netflix will lose. I find it baffling they are fucking around with ads and locking down access, making their experience worse. Same with Amazon Prime. It's like they forgot their own business model.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Steam figured this out early on and it's how they have maintained their dominance in the game distribution business. It's the same lessons the entertainment streaming platforms must learn - your value is convenience. Add more walls between consumers and content? you will be cast aside.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Yo, Netflix! This one right here! Read it and understand plz

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OH NO BOO HOO!!

Maybe you shouldn’t have become the monster you fought to destroy.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Lets make 50 competing services while people have less buying power than ever. Everything will be $15 if you want anything of value. P.s. the thing you wanted leaves next month HURRY"

Cant imagine why people pirate /s

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[–] [email protected] 272 points 1 year ago (8 children)

No - piracy, since it always carries at least some amount of difficulty and risk, is easy to compete against. And in fact, paid services, including Netflix, have proven that over and over. All it takes is to offer dependable convenience and quality and to treat customers well. People are always willing to pay a reasonable price for that.

The problem is that piracy becomes difficult to compete against when, as Netflix is currently doing, you shift from a business model of providing good service under fair terms for a reasonable price to a business model of providing crappy service under onerous terms for too much money, because the greedy, selfish, short-sighted sacks of shit at the top want to make even more obscene amounts of money. That's the point at which piracy gains enough of an advantage to outweigh its difficulties and risks.

And when that's the case, it's pretty obvious what the real problem is.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

CEOs: *Do a greedflation, raking in historic profits.*

Also CEOs: "Why does no one want to pay for a subscription?"

[–] [email protected] 350 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Step one, provide good service.

Netflix: Welp, I guess we should just pack it in.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago

So here's a novel idea, maybe stop driving people away from your business with constant rate-hikes, removal of content, killing new shows after 1 season, etc...

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