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[–] [email protected] 147 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (36 children)

While discussing the imminent climate disaster with my elderly parents, they said they don't care because they won't live long enough to see it.

I asked, "What about your kids and grandkids?"

They asked, "Do you believe in God?"

I said, "No."

They said, "If you Believe in God, then you'll get to go to Heaven when you die."

I don't believe in God, so I won't be going to Heaven (which I also don't believe in), but if I did believe in God and Heaven, and expected to go there, why the hell should I and my children have to live through a post-apocalyptic shitshow before we die?

For the record, from what the church they made me go to taught me about God and Heaven, they should probably not expect to make the cut either. The God I was taught about was pretty anti-fascist. Kind of a socialist really.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I dunno the Bible passages I have read made me think god was a bit of a bipolar asshole and any entity higher than a human that went against god for the sake of humans would be punished too.

that said I also didnt get the impression any of these types of people would make the cut either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Joel osteen is pretty socialist when he’s asking for money too.

It’s probably safe to assume all the anti-rich and “give to the poor” stuffs were said with a hand out and a cheesey smile.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

That’s frickin sad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Sorry about having to deal with that. I was raised in a similar environment and can very much empathize. At even an early age I started pointing out that what they were trying to teach me and what the book they told me to read were in complete opposition to one another. That didn't go over well, and it continues to not go over well.

Thing is, according to their own scripture, God doesn't need you to believe in him/them... just that you live righteously (a word that has different requirements depending whether you are ethnically Jewish or a gentile). Basically, be kind and generous to everyone, because God takes your treatment of others - especially the disadvantaged - very personally. Whether you believe in God (any flavor) or not, that's just good universal philosophy... and one that Christians don't just refuse to follow, but spit on.

So spitting on the futures of your own children and grandchildren... wow, according to their own "holy scripture" that's a big problem.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Your elderly parents should really check their God Positioning System to see if attitudes like "fuck my neighbours, fuck all future generations, I got mine" will set them on a course to Heaven...

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Shows that the didn't pay attention to The Sermon on the Mount and the beatitudes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Seriously they should just stop printing the rest of the fucking book

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or, like the vast majority of self-professed "Christians", literally any part of "The Bible" whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There is the one part about dashing babies on rocks. I guess they got the "kill children" part.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And don't forget the incest, rape, genocide, mass murder, adultery, slavery, etc...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hey, in the authors’ defense, it was hot! And they were hungry! It’s hard to write in those conditions.

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know it's not really gonna change anything but it's really nice to hear that someone said it to those fucks.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I honesty hope she runs in 2028 if we're still having elections. She's not perfect. But world's better than what we're used to.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

She's great, and she's one of the few Democrats capable of hard hitting soundbites like this one. Buuuuut, she's super controversial due to the constant attacks by the right. In a way, she rose to fame because of that, but they might have set her up to fail on any stage larger than her home district. I would love to be proven wrong there though.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

The right can make anyone controversial in the right. Because they're detached from reality. Completely untethered. We can't really worry about that. I think if she continues in the path she's currently on. Supporting labor and actually working in her community. That can go a long ways towards taking the name recognition she was gifted and building an even better structure on top of it.

She'll never get the misogynist and the fascist that's for sure. But she doesn't have to. She just has to be better than what we're used to.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. She dissed Mexican food in New York. Seems the same as Trump to me. (Major /s. I'd love AOC for president)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Hey at least she doesn’t eat pizza with a fork. Or, y’know, defraud cancer charities.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago

I've been impressed by her ability to actually get things done. She's been getting community programs funded in her district that accomplish Green New Deal goals but doing it silently without attaching Green New Deal wording anywhere. She got other representatives running similar programs in the same way. I respect someone who is willing to speak up but also believes in their mission enough to do it quietly if that's what it takes.