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I love how the words they chose to bold were VOTING and BIDEN for their message.
fuck you Amelia
Does Lemmy need a "people of Wal-Mart" group to remind people who the real American voters are?
We're here. We're fat. We're voting.
Pew Pew Pew .. 'merica.
Source: am a fat American (US citizen not to be confused with those "other" Americans)
Edit: readers can attribute /s based on their philosophy.. Pew Pew Pew
For those choosing not to vote for Biden, voting for a genocidist in a US federal election doesn't put blood on your hands.
This isn't fabricated consent (I mean it is in that lumpins are told to believe they chose the government when they didn't).
Here's the thing: The office seat will be filled whether or not you vote. And you get one non-transferable vote.
This means you get to vote against the worse popular guy by voting for his most likely contender.
It's the trolley problem, only millions are voting on the position of the lever. What we cannot do is move the lever out of position.
It's still up to you. Taking action is harder than not taking action, but we are staring down Project 2025, the neutering of elections in the US and one-party autocracy (the Republican party), which will also speed up the dismantling of civil rights in the US. If you don't want that to happen, please consider voting against Trump and any other Republicans down ballot.
Yes, it sucks the US is reduced to this sorry state.
I'm just disappointed with people pretending to be against genocide while bothsidesing an overtly racist fragile demagogue who did a putsch. It's very clear which direction that party is headed.
The ones that get me are the ones that talk about voting 3rd party. A lot of them seem to understand that the 3rd party is not going to win and that their best case scenario is... I guess "Next time they'll listen to us and we'll get a real leftist?" So... Your solution to the genocide is wait 4 years to get someone who will directly end it? Bestie, I don't think Gaza will be around in 4 years. Even if you discount Trump's stated desire to be a dictator and Project 2025.
Or, what happens by the way if Biden wins in spite of them voting 3rd party? Surely it doesn't mean that they've directly proven to the Democrats that they literally don't need that voting bloc?
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Sure, Melania's friend, sure.
me too ( I'm not from Empire aka USA )
"Wow, the woman they show in this image fits the traditional Western standard of beauty! I will do as the message says!"
...I guess that's how advertising in general works.
Go watch bill hicks idea for coke.
I really wish we could have seen his reaction to the era of Rick rolling.
is that... Denim?
God i hope not.
Essentially this implies you have to be mark material for Nigerian princes in order to not vote for Biden (id est vote against Trump).
It also implies that enough of US voters are, indeed, that naïve.
Or maybe people can't bring themselves to vote for someone funding and enabling a genocide. I'll be voting for a 3rd party candidate so there won't be blood on my hands.
You do you tho but don't be surprised when people shit on you for supporting a genocide when you tell them you voted for Biden
So you support Trump and want a dictatorship, got it.
Becsuse that's what your actions are. They're naive actions which help Trump.
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Donald Trump thanks you from the cold depths of his orange heart.
You do you tho but don't be surprised when people shit on you for ensuring a Trump victory, when he makes good on his pledge to help Israel "finish them all"
Ah yes, it's my fault for not wanting to vote for Biden and not Bidens fault for committing a genocide and making his voter base absolutely fucking hate him.
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likewise, voting for a third party, also equally i would argue, supports a genocide. Due to the fact that the US is almost explicitly two party, the third party is really just the 12 people in a city who think they're better than whatever the fuck else exists, even though ultimately about 14 people will vote for said party, and one of those is someone who doesn't know any of the candidates.
Politics is hell, life is hell, the world is hell, i consider this to be a form of astroturfing to be completely honest. Nothing you do is going to make a significant difference, you need to be conscious of that, unless we have a ranked choice voting system with like 5 candidates, where the win is by plurality and not the fucking majority percent, then it literally does not matter who you vote for. (when it comes down to this kind of proxy war bullshit that seems to inflame people so aggressively, on a macro scale, it's different, i'm just making a point)
Just for the record, so you don't think im some sort of morally superior fuckhead twat, i'm not voting this cycle. I'm worse than anybody voting. Literally anything you do is going to be better than me. At the very least, nobody can say i support genocide, because i am ambivalent to it. This is the road you are toeing close to my friend.
What kind of Backwoods fucking logic is that.... so choosing not to vote for the two candidates who are pro genocide makes me pro genocide? The fuck are you saying?
God you fucking neo libs are dumber than fucking conservatives at this point.
i'm saying that it makes no quantifiable difference, in the same way that me not voting, literally does nothing. The fact that you are also basically not voting (third party candidates pull basically nothing most of the time)
As a result, the likely people to go into power, are well... The two candidates who "support genocide" This is just how two party systems tend to work. You need like 5 different candidates with plurality voting for it to really matter. Once you start having that level of candidacy the numbers become significantly more spread out due to the fact that candidates have more varied policies. Moving it from majority vote win, to plurality vote win. I.E. Significantly more attainable, stable, and a lot more applicable to an entire countries governmental policies.
Maybe i'm fucking wrong, and maybe this third party individual is fucking incredible, once in a lifetime political handling abilities and is going to bump straight through all the bullshit and right into the presidency. I'm not willing to bet on it though. Currently the political system is so aggressively polarized, that we are "voting between a fascist, and someone who isn't that fascist" so if we want to "not be fascist" our best option here is going to be voting for the party who is "not fascist" because you can be sure as hell that conservatives aren't voting third party. Maybe they are, but not in any significant numbers, likewise can be said for the democratic party.
I simply do not see a situation where we come out of this without either trump, or biden in power. Unless i start hearing shit like, tomorrow, about this supposed third party. I simply don't think it's feasible for any other result. I can't imagine republicans are voting in any significant number against trump, most people who would are probably swing voters, so democrat this time around. Those who are voting for trump are going to be a significant portion of the base, probably at least 30% of the votes of that party. The democrats have the same issue. Most people are going to prefer voting for biden because incumbency and shit hasn't fucking exploded completely yet. I mean sure some people involved in the israel palestine stuff are probably voting third party, but i can't imagine they're a significant part of the populous. If they were we wouldn't be in this position that we are now.
At best, what voting for third party this time does is say "i didnt vote for joe biden, or trump" which like, you do you. But uh, good luck have fun with that one.
I'm gonna let you know right now that shaming people who don't vote for Biden is not a winning strategy and never will be.
Also saying Republicans are fascist and democrats aren't only appeals to liberals. Lefties fully believes both parties are fascist so that argument doesn't work either.
just for the record i'm not shaming people for how they vote, i'm shaming people for believing that there is some form of altruistic meaning in whoever you vote for. There isn't, there isn't a way to win, the entire point of voting is democratic compromise, you shouldn't feel like an in group, you shouldn't feel like an outgroup, you should feel like a contributor, because that's what you did. You contributed.
The rest is fair enough, but i wasn't going to interject a complete political paper into a comment about how voting is fucked up. Regardless, it serves it's purpose. Also i don't fully align with your interpretation of my statements, i bunched center leaning moderate types into the "swing voters" people who regularly change who they vote for because they generally don't care. This often leaves people who consistently vote for republican/democratic presidents. So most of who would be left is going to be maga/far right people, i.e. primarily trump voters. I don't want to say most left over democratic voters are going to vote biden, because i think there will be a significant upset, but i think it'll be most voters that end up voting for biden, like i said unless the third party gets like 30% percent votes or something, nothing unusual has happened.
I am real American, live in authentic American warm-water port and how about those New York Yankees Of Baseball Team!
Now that we have established trust with entertainment reference, I tell you that voting for Biden is no good.
did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Looks like those clowns in congress did it again! What a bunch of clowns.
What was Wenger thinking sending Walcott on that early?
I know, and they just keep trying to walk the ball into the net.
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Oh but we were worried about influence campaigns on TikTok? It was always about who's getting the money.
I'd prefer one less Hydra head