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An open letter by Meta employees claims the company censors Palestinian-related content internally and externally.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I long for the day when he and his privacy nightmare companies are all a thing of the past

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tom Scott has a great video you should watch called, "2030: Privacy's Dead. What happens next?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, I'd be censoring things in a workplace that have proven to disrupt or upset people. As much as I'd love to see Sharon take to Jan with the work kitchen's last plastic fork, all over a Israel-Palestine thread in Teams, I gotta think of the OHS guy. That includes bullying and psychosocial manipulation, which has already occurred at my workplace with Russia-Ukraine.

The article is paywalled, but the opening words imply to me that this is likely the case, which would simply be good and common practice.

I could only see this being an issue if Meta employees live at work and being censored at work is like being censored in life. Not like us on the outside world that can read and share whatever whenever.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was employment 101 not to talk about politics or religion at work. Unless the job is about one of those.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Yup, just like it's employment 101 to not discuss salaries.

Lack of communication and organization is a fantastic way to keep workers in line. Genuinely all it takes are a handful of socialists in an environment of heavily exploited workers to get a union going. They can all feel the material harm capitalism is causing, but lack the language and means to express and resist that harm.

When socialists provide it (via politics in the workplace), that harms companies. When communication takes place (salary sharing, organization tactics, etc.) you place a strain on the bourgeoise to behave more inline with worker expectations. This isn't what capitalists want.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Only here can discourse about a workplace responsibility to protect employees from conflict, use 'communication' as a segue into a rant about capitalism, the man, and socialists riding in to save the day from oppressive employers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get some people have immense faith in capitalist rule, that you genuinely believe that the reason it's normalized to not discuss salaries or politics is for your own good. Some people don't believe in class antagonisms. This used to be a purely fascist position, but liberals adopted it in the mid 20th century because of how effective it is at driving complacency.

Politics used to be common in the workplace. Not necessarily electoral politics, but organizational politics, which is far more important and impactful, and also much more regulated by capitalists and the petite bourgeoise. I've talked to my boss about electoral politics before, and it didn't cause issues. If I brought up unions with him I'd be fired within a month (based on how other union organizers were let go).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you're mixing two different things here. Discussions about unions, working conditions, workplace policies, fairness, etc. have a direct bearing on the workplace and the people in it. Yes, these things are political but they also directly impact the workplace and the people in the organization. I think these topics are all fine.

That's different from Pam in HR reminding you that she Stands With Israel when you work in a company that has no connection at all to Israel, weapons manufacturing, etc. Or maybe they want to harass you for your own views or trade in conspiracy theories. Their co-workers are a captive audience for these rants because they have to deal with these people to do their jobs.

To me it's not about loving capitalism, it's about not wanting yet one more sphere of life to be a stage for performative displays of tribal affiliation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I like your comment, but there's an important note that needs to be made, I'm not the one who invented the conflation of organizational and electoral politics. Putting all that under the sphere of "politics; not to be discussed at work" was a convenient tactic by capitalists to delegitimize important political discussions under the guise of the important considerations you bring up.

Conflation is a powerful rhetorical strategy. Capitalists do it with other things too (legitimizing private property by putting personal property under that umbrella, somehow making you owning your own home the same "kind" of ownership as Elon Musk/Tesla owning a factory on the other side of the planet that he's never stepped foot into).

The dual to conflation here is intersectionalism, which is important to consider too. It's not always relevant (e.g foreign trade policy often won't intersect with organizational politics), but it sometimes is. "right to work" ideals in electoral politics directly impacts organizational politics, so if we legitimize and normalize the latter, it'd be hard to unilaterally ban the former as well. The line gets muddy, and it's better to stray too far on the side of allowing too much discussion so organizing can actually take place, than too much restriction.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess to him Palestinians won't be a big market. You know, after all the dying. So this makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Or, more likely, he's banking on it being recolonized after the more blatantly active part of the genocide is concluded, and doesn't want to alienate the war crime profiteers who could be extremely lucrative for him once people go back to pretending that Israel isn't an apartheid state ruled by fascists.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago

When reached for comment, Zuckerberg told reporters, “Don’t waste my time with this shit. It’s not even in the top 10 of evil shit I did in the last hour.”

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Technofeudalism with a healthy helping of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

I'd expect nothing less from Zuck the Cuck.