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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago

For some of us, the 2016 Democratic primary was quite illuminating. I'm glad to see people are catching up finally.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

It didn't happen overnight (and racist religious world views have been cultivated within this cohort over many years), but the fact that the poorest most easily manipulated people haven't had anybody representing their interests for decades now opened the door to Trump.

The same process is happening in the UK. The UK 'electorate' don't seem to have the wherewithal to see this, instead they often demonise the poor as 'racist' or xenophobic inflaming the situation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

the poorest most easily manipulated people

The people who would benefit the most from Democrat-championed social programs that they now label as "radical" and "socialist" you mean?*

 

*Which is not some blanket endorsement of Democrats. A lot of them are also out of touch, too conservative, and still trying to run the country like it's 1952. I'm eagerly awaiting the rise of a viable 3rd party (but after all these decades I'm not really holding my breath) or the implosion of the Democrats. I was aghast that Trump somehow pulled them right instead of left, but maybe it will result in an implosion from which Bernie, AOC, Jasmine Crockett and such can bring a phoenix out of the ashes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

They weren't putting words in your mouth. They said:

"The people who would benefit the most from Democrat-championed social programs that they now label as "radical" and "socialist" you mean?"

They were talking about the poor and working class people who have been convinced by "Conservatives" that those programs are somehow radical and socialist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

'Radical' and 'socialist' in US politics are not only nothing of the sort but are nowhere near, so no I do not mean that in any sense.

Don't put words in my mouth my post was clear.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

the Dems are in cahoots with the same elite that are in cahoots with the Reps. the dems and reps pretend to be on opposite ends of a spectrum, but they are both sucking up to capitalists and their corporations

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

It's very simple. One of these people blindly supports Israel no matter what it does, up to and including genocide, and the other one doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

By definition that makes them all rightwing authoritarians aka fascists, which checks out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

What it actually makes them is zionist controlled opposition. You don't get zionist occupied government without having zionist occupied parties. The US government does whatever is good for Israel even if it is bad for the American people, so yes, we have zionist occupied government.

So you shouldn't be surprised that the current in power dems have more loyalty to that than any ideology / policy take. It's a club and they have to maintain it by controlling who's in it.

The guy, unfortunately for him, has a very human and natural position on Gazan genicide. And that's just not permissible.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago

we shall destroy the democratic party and rebuild it in our image

[–] [email protected] 36 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic Party are not friends to the people. They get rich being the opposition party and will only do the bare minimum necessary to get you to not vote the monsters back in, which is one of the reasons far-right parties are getting a draw world-wide when the alternative is neoliberalism.

We have to force radical change (the no brainer stuff like social safety nets, massive justice reform, and massive election reform).

The Sword of Damocles is twofold: the revolution of the people, and the wrath of rival dictators. And it's not to be blunted, but to keep our officials serving the public rather than their own private interests.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

It is so pleasant to see that people in the US understand that.

This is the extreme example, but if you look at Russia, that separation between the public and the politics had happened a long time ago. Now it is impossible to even convince people that politics has to serve their interests, and not the rich. And we see with the invasion how these lofeviews eventually unfolds.

Wish Americans to be strong in their transformation into the real civil society. And wish you luck and to have required support for this transformation.

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