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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post, there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

in the last couple of years I've gotten back into sound (used to work live/tv sound ages back, been trying to learn more production and shit) and as a result of that I've gotten to know a looooooot of synth/production/effect/.... related things

and christ it hurts to listen to that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

sorry bro, maximum good across the quantum wave function of the universe

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is almost the plot of The Fifth Season, a hugo winner from a while back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I read this as The Fifth Element, but it also (almost) works!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Also I think a final fantasy, where the moon drops monsters on the planet, and a zelda game.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (14 children)

https://less.online/ - they couldn't be bothered to write the 5 lines of js to do their karma discount automatically

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Why is Patrick McKenzie attending this, I wonder?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

That 'only show authors confirmed coming' button. Wtf lol.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Surprised and a bit disappointed to see patio11 attending. Gwern isn't though, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"A Festival of Writers Who are Wrong on the Internet"

How is it possible to be so thoroughly immune to self-reflection.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

can't wait to see how the felon musk stans try to excuse this one (archive)

The company said in its blog post that the problem began in late February, but it has since been able to compensate for the lost data

ah yes, because the lost data is the problem, but the thing floating in someone’s brain after coming loose 3 months ago isn’t something to speak up about. totes fine.

and there's a certain kind of regularity to keeping the lid on that news. like it was a choice to take that action. if only there were words for something like a pattern? of behaviour? if only[0]

[0] - (with apologies to stealing the phrasing from mmfish)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I just feel bad for the guy they implanted this in. Going to join the list of people who had a short term working piece of tech implanted and now are walking around with scrap. (It isn't that far yet for this guy, but Musk doesn't have the best track record).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

yeah I mean not to dismiss that, it's not the hardest of predictions. the thing i'm pointing at here is more that another felon musk company lies and misdirects, in the pattern of culture set by the fucking turd-in-chief.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

from bsky: "It is now officially fair game to make fun of this little shit"

https://archive.ph/cVeWT

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Don't forget Tiffany. Chick got a 13 carat diamond engagement ring from her fellow lucky sperm club member billionaire husband.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Familial Transmission of Personality Is Higher Than Shown in Typical Studies" - posted to HN

Another set of ~~social darwinisms~~ dark bio troofs feat. 2 year old accounts made by promptfondeling libertarians

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I swear to god, starting a nature vs. nurture debate in a place leaning even slightly libertarian just breaks my brain because I never understand what point they’re even trying to make.

Half of them seem to argue that this is proof rich people stay rich and poor people stay poor (although I fail to see from which side they’re coming) while the other half uses it as thin-veiled excuses to be racist without mentioning race.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

They’re just cowardly racists really.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

as previously discussed, the rabbit r1 turns out to be (gasp) just an android app.

in a twist no one saw coming, the servers running "rabbit os" report to just be running Ubuntu, and the "large action model" that was supposed to be able to watch humans use interfaces and learn how to use them, turns out to just be a series of hardcoded places to click in Playwright.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Oh look, another company’s “we won’t data scrape against our users’ wishes to feed spicy autocomplete” mask has just crumbled. I am so surprised.

Let’s see how many of my comments I can delete or overwrite with garbage before they ban me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

i couldn't delete the one question i had on stackoverflow, so i used a text generator to overwrite the body and title of the question. fight garbage with garbage

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The slatestar subreddit is doing its regular so what's up with all the racists constantly crawling out of the woodwork around here surprised pikachu thread, in response to Scotty doing Hanania Week in the substack.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So what exactly happens to people who get really into Scott et al. and then realize that they're racist? I mean people like OP who genuinely seemed shocked by how buddy buddy their "unorthodox" intellectuals are with blatant racists.

Do they slowly disengage from rationalist-spheres, or do they just become cryptoracists like all the other idw types?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They start reading sneerclub and then see that the stereotypes about hwo horrible the place is are not true. Then they post, then they are lost.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trapped in Acausal Robot God's maze forever

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

at least one vein of this goes off into the vibes cluster that is TPOT

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also what the fuck?

In your mind, is a racist who "possesses strong animus towards non-whites" a special category of person with which we should not engage in any kind of discussion? Or if we should not be casual towards them, how should we act? Why?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

is this trying to say "discrimination against racists is the real racism"? ... Would that be "racismism"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

"should we really treat violent racists any differently from how we would casually treat a neighbour? what is it really you expect me to do do? why are you so ridiculous?"

just some casual afternoon reframing of violent racism and dehumanising anyone that isn't like themselves, no biggie

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Amazing how much they memoryholed the Scott emails.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

You can like a thinker without endorsing all of their beliefs, even if their beliefs are evil. Why do people like Schmitt and Heidegger even though they were fascists? Or Foucault given his views on the age of consent? I agree that Hanania's views are relevant context, but I think it's fine to write a book review that doesn't try to analyse the author's motivations or the book's place in a wider political context.

Hanania is clearly analogous to Foucault and Heidegger, and also is it even wrong to completely divorce a work from all context.

I think Scott was simply more interested in writing an article on arguments aginst civil rights law than an article on whether Hanania is engaged in an insidious project to smuggle rascist ideas into the mainstream via his legal arguments, and frankly I find that kind of review more interesting too. Perphaps this is irresponsible, but at the end of the day Scott is a modestly influential blogger that just likes to write about things he finds interesting.

uwu smallbean blogger with absolutely no agenda besides the pursuit of truth and civility strikes again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Scott is of the opinion that being able to maintain peaceable discourse with people who you deeply disagree with on political issues is an important feature of society which we shouldn't readily make exceptions to.

"Scott being nice to racists and reviewing their books positively actually means he's less racist" is a good rhetorical trick.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

It's also a patently idiotic philosophy boiling down to basically negotiating with terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

HBD is a legit line of scientific inquiry you guys, it's not just eugenics obsessed weirdoes and fascists trying to bring back birthright as the primary path to privilege.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Nick Bostrom's advertising his new book about what if AIs let us sleep until noon and wouldn't that be grand.

A reddit ad: "What if things go right? A winter wonderland glittering with possibilities for discovery and play. Delve into the possibilities of artificial intelligence in Deep Utopia, by New York Times best selling authro Nick Bostrom. Available Now."

Also call me paranoid, but "A winter wonderland glittering with possibilities for discovery and play" sounds exactly like the sort of thing an LLM might generate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Bostrom yearns for retirement/unemployment the book.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Also there was a whole thing about how CGTP tends to use 'delve' a lot because it's been RLHF'd by speakers of nigerian english, so yeah.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Outright millenarianism

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