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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post, there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

This is the greatest ad for Twitter ever, hosting content like this. God damn that is amazing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

came here to post that, amazing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sam Bankman-Fried interviewed by Puck News!

this has been going around to great publicity from all!

it's an insufferably vapid and self-serving rehash of Sam's late 2022 crime confession tour. i can see why Puck grabbed for the exclusive, but jesus fuck nobody needs to hear from this conman again. Anyway, this copy isn't paywalled.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure the prison rice arbitrage thing will end well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

that's definitely not a set of words I thought I'd read today

so we learn, I guess

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Orange Site denizen plays Dr. LLM: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40331850

Show NH [sic]: "data-to-paper" - autonomous stepwise LLM-driven research

data-to-paper is a framework for systematically navigating the power of AI to perform complete end-to-end scientific research, starting from raw data and concluding with comprehensive, transparent, and human-verifiable scientific papers

The example "research paper" was some useless fluff about diabetes, based off an existing data set (read: actual work produced by actual humans), and mad-libs.

The study identifies an inverse correlation between physical activity and fruit and vegetable intake with diabetes occurrence, while higher BMI is positively correlated

I'm too sleepy and statistics-impaired to check how nonsensical the regression "analysis" or findings are, so instead let's check out the references (read: the actual humans who were plagarized to make this fluff)!

Reference #5

[5] T. Schnurr, Hermina Jakupovi, Germn D. Carrasquilla, L. ngquist, N. Grarup, T. Srensen, A. Tjnneland, K. Overvad, O. Pedersen, T. Hansen, and T. Kilpelinen. Obesity, unfavourable lifestyle and genetic risk of type 2 diabetes: a case-cohort study. Diabetologia, 63:1324–1332, 2020.

This incredibly managed to mangle all non-English alphabet names:

Hermina Jakupović, Germán D. Carrasquilla, Lars Ängquist, Thorkild I. A. Sørensen, Anne Tjønneland, Tuomas O. Kilpeläinen

I guess AI has an easier time advancing science than producing a PDF with non-ascii text in it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This incredibly managed to mangle all non-English alphabet names:

hmm. I can guess at a few reasons this could be happening: model coders "normalizing" everything to flat-ascii in training, or similar happening at training stage (because of the previously-referenced RLHF datamills employing only people with specific localized dialects, instead of wider context-local languages), etc.

wonder if this particular thing is a confluence of those, or just one specific set

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

have you ever met an English-native dev who didn't need to be trained out of the world being 7-bit ascii

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I got lucky and largely missed out on having to deal with those, at a guess largely because of location and age. the type I got to deal with instead were the php-/perl-brained "everything is just a string" types

hell, (circa 2010) I had beers with someone once who was really into Tcl and Second Life, and wanted to be uploaded as a digital consciousness. way before I knew about the other nutjobs, but in retrospect I now have a couple other questions I might've wanted to ask at the time...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@dgerard

7 bits were good enough for Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

My Jesus wanted characters for drawing borders and playing card suits, which is why He handed down to us Code Page 437. Using the upper 128 characters for things like vowels with funny marks on them is catholic heresy (nuts to Latin 1, down with Unicode).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

First efforts at bible digitization seems incredibly poorly documented online, and from a casual inspection in google scholar, not very well referenced. It's a pity it sounds like a fascinating topic, though 7 bits is likely for the first english versions yes (And according to this there are horrid 7-bits encodings for the ancient greek)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that actual engineers have been trying to educate newcomers on Unicode for at least 20 years and not only is it still pervasively ignored but the hottest, newest, cutting edge AI that Will Change Everything™ with billions of dollars and so many manhours behind it gets absolutely dumbfounded when it sees é is the exact combination of funny and sad that will eventually result in me turning into a Butlerian Jihad Joker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Every respectable programming language has functionality in its standard library that recognises letter characters

As a C++ programmer I've never been so offended by something I so entirely agree with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Some rich investor/math nerd croaks (from old age), HN's resident mod team declines to add a black bar to the site, leading fans of licking rich boots to wonder if "the community" should decide which dead rich guys get commemorated:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40327812

Bonus for the dude still salty Terry Davis didn't get one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Their comments section just never fails to deliver ... something.

Online communities with reasonable debate are under attack by state actors, HN is no exception. In this context, no matter how well meaning the proposal is, opening an avenue for acrimony here is not something we can afford.

At least this dead hedge fund guy has a wikipedia "controversies" section as a legacy. I wonder if a genius mathematician could figure out a way to enrich his friends and family while the markets took a dump.

According to The Wall Street Journal in May 2009, Simons was questioned by investors on the dramatic performance gap of Renaissance Technologies' portfolios. The Medallion Fund, which has been available exclusively to current and past employees and their families, surged 80% in 2008 in spite of hefty fees; the Renaissance Institutional Equities Fund (RIEF), owned by outsiders, lost money in both 2008 and 2009; RIEF declined 16% in 2008.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Bumble founder Whitney Wolfe Herd says the app could embrace AI

"Your dating concierge could go and date for you!" this woman actually said out of her mouth

  • you each send your robots out to date
  • they fuck, creating a nanobot plague that destroys the earth
  • you both stay at home shitposting on bsky

previously both a Black Mirror and an Oglaf (highly NSFW)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Is the AI lying? wonders the Guardian and turns to this guy:

“As the deceptive capabilities of AI systems become more advanced, the dangers they pose to society will become increasingly serious,” said Dr Peter Park, an AI existential safety researcher at MIT and author of the research.

Who of course validates the sentient AI frame. They should have asked him if this means that we are closer to Terminator or Matrix.

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