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[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Does Trump realize that if he "wins" that particular argument, that would empower Biden to have Trump killed without consequence? Or the supreme court justices he rammed into the court? Or his voters?

Oh wait... republicans are utterly incapable of forseeing potential consequences of what they want nm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Nah, they get that. They also get that most Democrats aren't outright evil or of the "god made me do it" type, as they are.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Does Trump realize that if he “wins” that particular argument, that would empower Biden to have Trump killed without consequence?

As of today, Trump has been held in contempt of court 10 times, with the judge explicitly stating "The last thing I want to do is put you in jail".

This is a guy who has been so utterly swaddled from consequences that I genuinely do not believe he feels threatened by the prospect of extra-judicial assassination by a political rival. Liberals are Woke and Soy. They don't have the cajones to pull the trigger. And I've seen little to suggest he's wrong in this belief. The police are far more willing to crack the heads of Columbia liberal arts students than MAGA Chuds. And the courts have been incredibly lenient towards J6ers, particularly those with the money and influence to plead favorable terms in court.

Meanwhile, Epic MAGA Dudes run rampant through JSOC, the FBI, and the Secret Service. If anything, this is a threat against Biden. Combined with the claim that he's the legitimate president and was robbed of his second term, this line of reasoning is intended to carve a legal path for a coup from friends in the military and police.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Part of the reason that courts are so lenient with him is to avoid that, once he is judged, that there is any space for anyone to claim a mistrial or that he was mis treated. It's unfortunate z but that's the way the justice system works, and trump abuses that to the max.

That is why the judge explicitly says "I don't want to jail you" just so that it's said that he can, but won't. Yet. Now that trump has been ordered to pay, it's only a few thousand dollars, but again, that's the law. Judges can't just change that on their own whims.

So next up, if Trump blabs again, which he will, he will go to jail. I read something about the secret service already trying to figure out how to protect trump in jail, because that's their responsibility, wherever the idiot is, so let's just say that the next step may blvery we'll be quite funny.

Having said that: I am happy they are taking their time and are being very careful, last thing you want is an exonorated trump because of some procedural error or because trump indeed was not tried fairly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Part of the reason that courts are so lenient with him is to avoid that, once he is judged, that there is any space for anyone to claim a mistrial or that he was mis treated.

And why are these bureaucrats obsessed with a perception of fairness for Donald Trump when they were so cavalier with the treatment of a guy like Steven Donziger or Aaron Swartz or Brandon Mayfield or Leonard Peltier?

The argument advanced by liberals is that Donald Trump presents an extraordinary threat to democracy and civil liberties in the US if elected. So... surely he's got himself booked on a one-way trip to Guantanamo Bay, right? Or, at the very least, he'll be receiving the same treatment as Chelsea Manning or Reality Winner, right?

So next up, if Trump blabs again, which he will, he will go to jail.

I will put up $1000 to your $100 that Trump will not spend a single full day in jail if he is once again dinged for being in contempt of court.

Having said that: I am happy they are taking their time and are being very careful

They're running out the clock until election day, so they can throw out the case.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Do you really think Joe Biden would order Trump killed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Lol...Dems would meet the bullet halfway... And anyone who wasn't willing to make that compromise would be a radical progressive

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is why they are trying to push the decision until after the election. If Trump wins, the president has full immunity to do whatever he wants. If Biden wins they'll likely say the president can be held accountable for their actions as president.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Would love to hear the followup question, "If the president decides a supreme court justice is a corrupt person..."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That was entirely my point I made a couple weeks ago. If they move ahead on that decision, then Biden would be within his rights to have the consenting judges hung and replace them, hanging any members of congress or senators that tried to block the appointments. Then he could ask that court to reconsider the decision, and he would have been immune for these actions that occurred during the hiatus of accountability.

Seems like a fairly straightforward solution.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We get the president from "Escape from L A"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

He also might be The Thing. That's just what I'm hearing, lots of people are saying it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

That might be true, but the gays are turning the frogs gay! Enough is enough! Maga 2024 /s

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If the president can order a drone strike from across the world, why can't it be against his political opponents at home.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but - hypothetically - lets assume we have a large base of supporters who take indescribable glee in watching police crack the skulls of college students and pink-hatted feminists. Lets assume we have governors and mayors who surround themselves with paramilitary groups, while threatening to lock up anyone who voices dissent. And all these politicians win in landslide elections in their home states, because the shrinking pool of eligible voters is comprised more and more of these fanatics.

What then?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

We become Bestest Korea

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah... The US has sanctioned extrajudicial assassination under Mr. "Yes We Can" Barak Obama. We're far on the wrong side of that slope.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There was the choice of drone operations being completed on a local level, or to push the authority to authorise them up the chain.

Obama took personal responsibility for this new tool instead of letting the military use it in whatever way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Personal responsibility" is a hell of a way to describe giving yourself the power to kill indiscriminately with no oversight or consequences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the status quo was some rando jarhead or spook makes that decision, so Obama changed it so his office makes the decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

That's not an improvement.

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