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And I thought Americans were carbrained, holy shit.

(To be fair, he's not wrong in that this is intended to keep the auto companies and the government nice and fat -- but the obvious response to this is to agitate for better public transit, not railing against an environmentally sound policy.)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alright, so I'm not a regular here, I'm a Gearhead who lives in an Unfortunately car centric area. I like cars, I think they're neat, I HATE that we need them to commute.

I don't understand why cars are being banned after an arbitrary time limit. 15 years for petrol? Until year I drove a 30 year old petrol Toyota which pulled almost 50MPG on the highway, could have done better with some simple mods but I live in the mountains and needed the power for uphill.

I understand the desire to keep older more polluting vehicles off the road but arbitrarily declaring vehicles EOL because of their age is ridiculous.

Am I missing the point here? I'd appreciate some input because this feels like a bad move all around.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The government's purported logic is that emissions standards from 15 years ago were lax and are much tighter now and therefore vehicles of that age are contributing to pollution. On the face of it that makes sense; Delhi's AQI is one of the worst in the world, and emissions standards here were pretty meh until the 2010s.

In reality it's because the auto industry wants you to buy new cars. That's it. If the government was actually focused on limiting pollution they'd be investing heavily in efficient public transit and walking/biking infrastructure and enforcing things like a congestion tax to push people towards said options, but they're just offloading it on to regular people so they can make a fuckton of money without having to spend any.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

all car bans should come with free bikes and public transport

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Don’t forget to buy F1 tickets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Don't complain about 1km school runs until you have tried to do it on foot - in Delhi. Using a car might be the only halfway safe method in that area.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

ITT: Some people want OOP's wife and kid to walk to school on what's essentially a highway. Others seem to realize that there might be a reason why OOP's wife needs the car, and given that OOP's done 65000 km in 15 years, he's not exactly doing a whole lot of driving with it.

There's also suggestions of using public transport, but if that even exists for their route, OOP's wife can't exactly just go walk on a bus, she could get gang raped, because this is Delhi.

We're not talking about a big SUV either. It's a tiny little hatchback, the most city-friendly car possible:

The situation sucks for everyone involved. Whereas in the west we're used to it being just a transit availability issue, in parts of the world there's also the safety issue. Yes, the famous gang-rape-set-on-fire-murder case was 13 years ago, but that doesn't mean Delhi is magically safe now. It's still a huge issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The has got to be an alternate route that is nicer than that, that's wild.

But I get that sone areas are incredibly car centric and leave you little choice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The has got to be an alternate route that is nicer than that, that’s wild.

Well they could also be lying or exaggerating to make a point, but we don't really know.

But I get that sone areas are incredibly car centric and leave you little choice.

That's what I witnessed when I visited the US, though I went on the east coast so not as car centric as the rest of the country. Haven't been to India, so I'm not sure how bad it is there for real.

My own country isn't exactly the paragon of public transit, but it's good enough that you've got literal carbrains going "eh I could just take the bus to work and have a fun project car instead of a boring daily commuter". Walking is an option pretty much everywhere too, even the large stroads leading in and out of cities (essentially the highway continuing into the city, really), have sidewalks and pedestrian crossings. If I need to go 1 KM in any direction here, I walk

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd be mad if the government forced me to get rid of my working car too. I think a better option would be to do something like not allow new gas cars to be manufactured or registered to people. Like stop issuing license plates for gas cars rather than forcing everyone to get rid of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Sounds like how the EU is usually doing this. Limit the companies, not the people directly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Certainly seems so. From the picture the OOP posted, it doesn't look like there's paved walkways

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A 5-8kg school bag is insane. What the hell is going on there? Where I live, it's only 2kg.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Lucky you. I think school bags in many countries, even developed ones are at an abuse level. When I was 12 my bag often weighed 10kg+, no lockers. I had hoped the situation had improved until I spoke to my 20 years younger cousin, it's still the same shit. I believe it is probably a major contributing factor to scoliosis and kyphosis for children and teenagers, but still it persists

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Honestly if he's done 65000 km in 15 years it may well be that he only uses it to drive routes where you literally can't walk, like this one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

This dude is the one living in a fool's paradise with infrastructure like that, and I say that as someone living in a fool's paradise with infrastructure only a little better than that.

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