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Jewish-led groups slammed the legislation as a tool for silencing the movement for Palestinian rights.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/kVkfI

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Am I gonna be labeled Christophobe if I criticize Armenia then? Not that that country has anything worth criticizing, but still, it kinda feels dumb.

And yes, I chose Armenia specifically because it's the first country to adopt Christianity as its state religion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Criticism of america is christian hate.

Please protect my poor parents for directly hailing in the end times just like Jesus would have wanted :(

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

@BrikoX The constitution doesn't give congress authority over words.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Yeah I can't see how this holds up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

It gives them authority over laws. And laws are made of what? Sand, water and sunshine?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

So can we criticize Saudi Arabia or is that considered Islamophobia?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does this change anything? Hate speech is protected by the First Amendment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The First Amendment only protects opinions, hence the defamation lawsuits being a thing. This law makes facts a violation of the law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Truth is widely accepted as a complete defense to all defamation claims.

The way you win a defamation lawsuit is by proving what you're claiming is factually correct. I'm gonna need some sort of case law citation showing that what you're claiming was ever an established interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"The way you win a defamation lawsuit is by proving what you're claiming is factually correct" or a non-actionable opinion.

To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.

The law in question introduces definitions that are accepted as fact under the law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

a false statement purporting to be fact

So if you make up some BS and try to pedal it as fact, it is not protected speech. That doesn't make your lies facts, nor does it make them opinions. They're just lies.

EDIT: Before anyone tries to bring up lies being spread in other contexts, this is specifically in the context of defamation, and defamation is an established exception to what constitutes "free speech" under the First Amendment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I am so sick of fascism. Will there ever be a time in our lifetimes that it won't be as thick?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Nope. It's not going away unless things get a lot worse for a hot minute first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Yes. Pick up arms. Keep marching on. The left has a really strong base that the media doesn't like to show. Don't give up hope.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Guess I'm an antisemitic jew, then. Obviously that makes no fucking sense, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"Well lookee here fellas, we got us one of them self-hatin jews!"

-Some movie or something I think? Possibly a TV show or stand-up routine...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Damn, I think you're right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

They had a three parter, with the meteorshower. one of them is the one with the juwbelie where they try to get Moses macaroni pictures and what not. One of the elders there is from the sect of anti-Semites or so.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I do often hate myself, but it has nothing to do with the judaism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Try to take it easy on yourself, you're only human.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Gestures vaguely at themselves

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Sounds like an Inglorious Basterds line but I cant recall either

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah, it makes perfect sense! If we don't support Israel, then we're not "real" Jews. Or is it that we're supposed to be self-hating? Either way, I know I always look forward to (usually some flavor of Christian) politicians telling me how to be a Jew.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is it a requirement to be Jewish, in order to have Israeli citizenship?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I'm not Israeli, so not entirely sure about their laws, but Wikipedia confirms that there are non-Jewish citizens.

As a Jew, though, it would be far easier for me to obtain Israeli citizenship than it would be for a gentile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure their media apparatus can "lawfully" show stock images with people photoshopped to be saluting Hitler on any news about student protests against being complicit in Israel's genocide now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What it primarily does is tell the Department of Education that when it enforces federal anti-discrimination laws, it must use the definition of antisemitism put forward by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA). DoE enforcement actions of this sort are somewhat uncommon, and take a long time to play out. So, it's really tough to see great relevance

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is about sending a message and creating legal framework for fucking over dissent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Like I said, the law is seldom used, but those that see monsters in the closet always will.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Definitely and absolutely not 1984

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Well, its not. Something bad doesn't have to be like 1984 to be bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do yall ever get tired of regurgitating this tired trope?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

No, but I'm tired

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Referencing that treasonous book is double ungood.

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