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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, windows gamers upgrade to windows 11, Linux users stay on Linux, and everyone else is on android/ios and in no hurry to do anything about the laptop collecting dust most of the time.

Companies are also more likely to pay the extended support a year or two and update when the computer is replaced.

Its only on here on the fediverse people have time to complain about windows 11. (well some of the gamers might but more likely due to unstable systems on the newest i9 chips, since you launch steam, discord and a browser and alt tab between them.. ignoring the start menu)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Here seems like people think everyone will say "welp, that's it, going linux!". Dude, most people I've talked about it, regular people who don't spent their lives experimenting with tech, don't even know what linux is

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

That's weird. Do people not want ads in the computers they paid for begging them to subscribe to their own hardware? Do people not want LLM models watching everything they do and reporting back to headquarters? So perplexing. Welp, the users have spoken, hopefully Microsoft can figure out how to iterate. Maybe they want more ads and AI all over?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once, I was asked if I wanted a special offer on Microsoft Office on boot up. Explorer freezes so often for me when I right-click a file and select Open With that it's made me twitchy. Frequently image icons stop displaying. For a long while, every time I've installed Windows on a computer, I've had to go through and disable all the awful misfeatures Windows tries to put in the taskbar. I also always have to set OneDrive so it doesn't redirect folders like Desktop and Documents into its cloud storage area. Now Windows 11 is threatening to put CoPilot on my desktop, and I'll have to disable it too.

I'm positively longing for Linux now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I had to do all the same things on my work computer. If MS could stop shitting all over my taskbar that would be an amazing expression of basic decency. I'm about to go to IT and ask for a Linux computer that I can test with my day to day tools to make sure everything works. Typically only a few devs have them and those of us in support roles are on Windows. Microsoft is literally sapping away the time and effort my employer has paid me to put towards their customers. I use Linux at home and it has none of these problems. Actually, the worst problem I've had in years was a broken package that I simply uninstalled and re-added from a different source.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've already decided I'll be going full Linux when Win10 reaches EOL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I like it, I hope you do, too. If you decide to try beforehand I'd suggest a second machine or a VM. Apparently Windows is a massive pain when dual booting, like it commonly deactivates the Linux bootloader.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

It slowed down my desktop experience significantly. Like it makes no sense at all. One day I'm working I solidworks on windows 10 and old computer at acceptable speed, the next I get assigned a new, bastly improved computer, with windows 11 and solidworks latest version, and it's slow as fuck! I just want to end it sometimes. It lags, it crashes, it's worthless! SW is worthless on its own, but with windows 11 its like 10 times worse. I think they are actually serving it on a server secretly and we are just remoting into it. It behaves almost exactly as when using remote desktop. It's terrible and I want it gone!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, Windows 11 works quite well, as a Windows system, but it feels unfinished. It feels like Microsoft pushed out a pre-release built and it trying to rush out fixes and completion patches.

And it's not even as if I care one much one way or another, I moved away from Windows ages ago (decades, really). I only keep a partition around for the odd game, and it's just staying around so that I can setup my Oculus CV1 again one of these days. It got upgraded to Win11, but probably hasn't booted in over a year.

I boot Windows sometimes on my laptop where I kept a small 200MB partition, mostly to see what it looks like nowadays. I'm not certain the various updates are making the experience better (at least judging from my quick twenty minutes, tour, so that's admittedly not worth much).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Its the only version of windows i ever had where the start menu of all thing stopped functioning. I had to restart. Wtf?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

I can vouch for that I have windows 11 and I want to go back to windows 10

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I want to just convert to using my Fedora 40 KDE install, but there are just too many blockers for me, both hardware and software.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They should have just kept incrementally upgrading W10. People don't like big changes and there's not much encouraging people to 11 except 10 going EOL.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, but the problem is win 10 isn't built from the ground up to be able to cater for ads inserted into your welcome bar, explorer bar, settings page, start menu and personalised ads ...... :( we live in the worse timeline dont we.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This isn't the worst timeline. It was always destined to end up this way. Corporations consider themselves ethically mandated to squeeze as much profit out of customers as they can, to find the exactly monetary line where the number of customers they drive off is balanced by the money they can gain by the things that drove them off. They actually believe that, and that basically means any profit-seeking corporation is going to ruin their user experience in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

IIRC, that was actually the plan. I remember Microsoft saying way back that 10 would be the last version of Windows and everything would be just upgrades to 10 moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Which is exactly why I actually bought 10 instead of cheating an upgrade "hack" I figured out with XP that I then carried over to 10. I figured if it's actually the last then it's worth the 500 fucking dollars or whatever the hell it cost back then.

But no, they lied. I know surprise surprise a corporation lied.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

System as a service. I remember that as well. Obviously they didn't make as much money with it as they wanted to. Sooo they just draw an arbitrary line regarding supported CPUs, ditch Windoof 10, push 11, force users to upgrade their hardware and therefore often force them to buy new licenses and making new friends that way by starting that in the middle of the chip crisis. Then, captivating the user in their new OS, shoving ads down their throat, harvesting their data to make even more. What a shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

The same story of publicly traded companies again and again.

Your steady growth isn't good enough.

Your growth has to grow - and if it's not growing fast enough then you're not doing your duty to the shareholders.

Add in the fact that we've let businesses get so large they empty all the air from the room and we've managed to enshittify our entire society.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Geez Microsoft, I wonder why? If a product is good, then it doesn't need to be pushed onto consumers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

too bad you have no choice soon good luck

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why did the emoji picker of W11 get so fucking downgraded?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Seriously can someone fix this

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And the windows+P multi monitor control doesn't work before login in 11 because it's part of the taskbar now

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